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Performer's killing shocks drag community (Miss Gay Ohio)
PlanetOut.com via Yahoo ^ | May 20, 2002 | Jen Christensen

Posted on 05/29/2002 1:29:38 PM PDT by Incorrigible

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To: Incorrigible
"...the gay community is just not in a very good place emotionally."
21 posted on 05/29/2002 2:27:50 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: SamAdams76
I can't figure out who the others are.

Well, at least two of them look like members of the Monkees.


22 posted on 05/29/2002 2:28:00 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb
Oh my!

Some things you only think exist only in New York, LA and San Francisco.
23 posted on 05/29/2002 2:29:46 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Incorrigible
This just proves we need a 10 day waiting period on samurai swords.
24 posted on 05/29/2002 2:31:08 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: r9etb
BTW: The behemoth one is Miss Gay America, 2001.

Just remember not to eat for several hours before following the link....

Hell's bells! Aren't they the kweer kommandos the Brit Marines recently encountered in Ashcanistan?

25 posted on 05/29/2002 2:31:45 PM PDT by MarineDad
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To: Incorrigible; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; babylonian; Kevin Curry
>"Between this and some other high profile deaths here, right now the gay community is just not in a very good place emotionally."

Uh huh.  They aren't gay any more.

Brazon was brazen, and is headed for the brazier as are all persons of whatever gender they choose, who fail and refuse to repent.  Gives more meaning to "cross over."  The wages of sin is what?  Bigger implants?  Not so.  Death.

26 posted on 05/29/2002 2:37:39 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: Incorrigible
McMurtry's roommate, Brain Bass, told police that Jennings broke through the back door of their house and went after McMurtry. Bass, a hairdresser who often did Brazon's hair and make-up for performances, was also injured.

Meeeow. Sounds like one hell of a cat fight.

27 posted on 05/29/2002 2:39:22 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Incorrigible
McMurtry's roommate, Brain Bass, told police that Jennings broke through the back door of their house and went after McMurtry. Bass, a hairdresser who often did Brazon's hair and make-up for performances, was also injured.

A Hairdresser? It's getting more and more difficult to not stereotype.

Hat-Trick

28 posted on 05/29/2002 2:43:15 PM PDT by Hat-Trick
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To: KissOfTheSith
This is a gross violation of the statutes of Feminist Conventional Wisdom. Everyone knows domestic violence is caused by men, who are violent rapists by nature. Woman on woman violence cannot and therefore does not occur.
29 posted on 05/29/2002 2:50:40 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
violence includes cases in which both the victim and attacker were members of the same sex. According to the report, between 1993 and 1999 there was a yearly average of 142,290 male victims of intimate partner violence -- of that, 13,740 or 10% stemmed from intimate-partner violence between men. The report showed 902,240 female victims of domestic violence on average per year, with 2% or 16,900 involving intimate violence between women. The report was compiled by Bureau of Justice Statistics and used estimates from the National Crime Victimization Survey. This is the first year that the survey has included information on intimate-partner violence victims of the same sex.

 
Gay on Gay Violence
                         After reading and viewing much material on this subject, one will see that the
                         homosexual community has a real problem with domestic violence, both
                         male and female.  They are just as prone to violence and same-sex rape as
                         heterosexuals and in some circles the problem is even worse than the general
                         population.  With homosexuals portraying themselves as "victims" of
                         violence, harassment and the made-up word "homophobia",  one can only
                         wonder since 90% of all violence acts towards homosexuals are done by
                         other homosexuals, how bad has society really treated modern day "gays"?
                           A 1970 study in San Francisco found that 9% of male heterosexuals and
                         24% of gays, 2% of female heterosexuals and 11% of lesbians reported
                         having been homosexually raped.  Source:  Bell, A.P., et. al., Sexual
                         Preference: Statical Appendix Bloomington; Indiana University Press,
                         1981.
                           Approximately one out of ten homicides in San Francisco is the result of
                         sadomasochistic sex among homosexuals.  Source:  " Coroner Battles
                         Sado-masochistic Injuries," Associated Press, 12, March 1981. See Also
                         Blade, 11 September 1981.
                           A 1988 study revealed that 22% of their sampling reported sexual abuse.
                         They note that, contrary to what one might expect from the literature, many
                         gay male adolescents are abused and or raped in the home, usually by an
                         uncle or older brother, but sometimes by the father. Most blame themselves
                         or are blamed by others because of their preference for male sexual partners.
                         Source:  Martin, A.D., & Hetrick, E. A. (1988), "The stigmatization of the
                         Gay and Lesbian adolescent," Journal of Homosexuality, Vol. 17, pp.
                         163-183.
                           In 1990, V.E. Coleman surveyed 90 lesbian couples and found that 46%
                         experienced repeated acts of violence in their relationships.
                           There is little information on gay and lesbian domestic violence for several
                         reasons. First, only since 1987 have statistics regarding gay and lesbian
                         domestic violence been collected.  The San Francisco Police Department
                         reported no fewer than 100 calls per month for gay and lesbian domestic
                         violence in 1987.   The New York City Gay and Lesbian Anti-Violence
                         reported that 12-15% of their clients sought services there for domestic
                         violence.  Others reported figured as high as 39%. Also this report revealed
                         that substance abuse has been empirically linked to committing acts of
                         violence and being the victim of acts of violence in lesbian relationships.
                         Source:  Schilt, R., Lie, G., and Montagne, M., (1990), "Substance use as a
                         correlate of violence in intimate lesbian relationships,"  Journal of
                         Homosexuality, Vol. 19, pp.51-65.
                           Another 1990 study reported that 40% of the gay men were unwilling to
                         seek professional help for a problem in their relationship.  Source:   Mordcin,
                         M. J., & Wyers, N. L., (1990), "Lesbian and gay couples: where they turn
                         when help is needed,"  Journal of Gay and Lesbian Psychotherapy, vol. 1,
                         pp. 89-104.
                           A 1985 study of 1109 lesbians by Gwai-Yong Lie and Sabrina
                         Gentlewarrier reported that slightly more than half of the respondents
                         indicated that they had been abused by a female partner.   Source:
                         Gwat-Yong Lie & Gentlewarrier, "Intimate violence in lesbian relationships:
                         Discussion of survey findings and practice implications," (1991) 15 Journal
                         of Social Service Research 46, The Haworth Press
                           One study estimates that between 15-20% of gay and lesbian couples are
                         affected by domestic violence and describe gay male domestic violence as
                         "the third most severe health problem facing gay men today", trailing behind
                         AIDS and substance abuse.  The researchers estimated that approximately
                         500,000 gay men per year are battered by a violence partner.  They also
                         argue that the incidence of gay domestic violence is probably greater that
                         heterosexual domestic violence because: there are two men in a gay couple,
                         and either could be a batterer, there is still some social norm not to hit a
                         woman, and there is no woman in gay relationships, there are social norms
                         that combat between men is always mutual combat and men should fight to
                         resolve differences, and there are additional stressors of gay and lesbian
                         relationships not present in heterosexual relationships.  Source:   ref., Island,
                         I., and P. Letellier, no. 17, supra, p. 11; Szymanski. M "Battered Husbands:
                         Domestic Violence in Gay relationships," Genre Magazine, Fall 1991, pp.
                         36-37.
                           Domestic violence in gay and lesbian couples is a serious problem.  Until
                         recently the problem has been completely discounted and thus received little
                         attention.  Many issues involved indicate that incidence of domestic violence
                         in gay and lesbian couples is probably at least as high as in heterosexual
                         couples, if not higher.  Source:  Richard Niolon, Ph.D., "Domestic Violence
                         in Gay and Lesbian Couples," www.psychpage.com., (1992).
                           Another study of 113 lesbians reported that 41% said they had been abused
                         in one or more relationships. Source:  Ristock, J., "And Justice for All?...The
                         Social Context of Legal Responses to Abuse in Lesbian relationships,"
                         (1994) 7 Canadian Journal of Women and the Law 420.
                           In one study, 15% of lesbians engaged in torture for sexual fun
                         (sadomasochism) that included "piercing, cutting or whipping to the point of
                         bleeding" with their lovers.  Source:   Lemp et al, "HIV seroprevalence and
                         risk behavior among lesbians," American Journal of Public Health, 1995;
                         vol. 85: pp1549-1552.
                           In February 1994, Robert McEwan was arrested in Perth, Western
                         Australia, and charged with the willful murder of his same-sex partner of 14
                         years.  McEwan's partner died from multiple stab wounds.  McEwan
                         pleaded not guilty, basing his defense on the "battered wife syndrome" and
                         provocation.  McEwan claimed that he had been "dominated and abused
                         physically, sexually, and emotionally" by his partner for several years. The
                         jury was unable to reach a verdict and in February of 1996, murder charges
                         were dropped in lieu of pleading guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter. 
                         The case is believed to be the first in Australia to successfully rely on the
                         "battered wife (spouse) syndrome" in a same sex relationship.  Source: 
                         Gibson, R., "Gay killer was 'Battered Wife'", The West Australian, February
                         8, 1996, p. 11.
                           Such discrimination from the outside, along with the destructive force of
                         the AIDS epidemic, has tended to obscure the internal problem that plagues
                         the gay community: domestic violence.   In fact, several recent studies
                         suggest that same-sex domestic violence may be occurring at a similar rate -
                         approximately one-third of all relationships - as heterosexual domestic
                         violence.  A six-city survey conducted by gay activists last year turned up
                         1,566 reported incidents of gay domestic violence, several hundred more
                         than reported incidents of anti-gay harassment and violence.  People are
                         really surprised, especially about lesbian battering.  The notion among
                         feminists, lesbians - among women in general - is that this is a male
                         problem.  It's part of an older lesbian-feminist paradigm which says most of
                         the problems in the world come from men and if we could isolate ourselves
                         from them, then things would be kind of idyllic.  It's not true. But people in
                         lesbian communities don't want to talk about that publicly.   It's like airing
                         dirty laundry.  Source:  Ros Davidson, " Gay-on-Gay Violence: The gay
                         community's dirty secret - domestic violence - is finally coming out of the
                         closet,"  Salon Magazine,  February 27, 1997.
The rest:
http://www.cprmd.org/Myth_Fact_010.htm

30 posted on 05/29/2002 4:27:12 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: sixtycyclehum
You do not have a problem. Let me tell you exactly how to handle it.

Make sure no one else is within earshot when you do this. If I have to explain why, I'm telling this to the wrong person.

Let the miserable p.o.s. start ogling your arse......then slowly, quietly walk right up to him, nose to nose. Inform him that you don't like what he's doing and that you find it........and him..........offensive as all living hell. Add that if he ever even dreams of doing it again in your presence that he'll be eating out of a straw for six months.

Damned-well mean it when you say it.

Then..........walk away and return to what you were doing.

Your problem will disappear.

32 posted on 05/29/2002 4:44:45 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Incorrigible
There's a group of priests (chancery officials and others) in the diocese of Columbus, who meet weekly at a regular table in one of the city's gay hangouts. They are known as "The Death Squad"--on account of their vindictiveness against straight priests, and their general abuse of power in the diocese. I'm sure they are upset about the drag queen's death, and they certainly should have been interviewed.
33 posted on 05/29/2002 5:57:29 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: AppyPappy
Interesting.
34 posted on 05/29/2002 6:21:30 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: Arthur McGowan
And I thought only Cleveland had a problem!

Cleveland Catholic Diocese Again Recommends a $30K Grant for NARAL Group - This Time We Can Stop It!

35 posted on 05/29/2002 6:23:50 PM PDT by Incorrigible
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To: sixtycyclehum
Re: #36: LOL..........ok ok, I think I get the idea. :) "It" just creeps everyone out.

Head to H.R. and raise hell. THAT will work when all else fails. They don't tend to be types who like "controversy".

38 posted on 05/30/2002 4:51:49 PM PDT by RightOnline
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