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The Summit Oil Deal - Setting the Stage for even Bigger Oil Bargains
Russian Observer ^ | May 24, 2002 | Ira Straus

Posted on 05/25/2002 3:31:13 PM PDT by Shermy

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To: Shermy; *Russia List; larryjohnson; Fish out of Water; MJY1288; Dog; MJY1288; swarthyguy...
In the article psoted titled Russia Is Finished this poster just a few months before 9/11 wrote the following:

I could have read this about Russia written in every century by writeres with delusions of granduer from the dominant power of that century. French, British, German, American, it is all the same.

I wonder is the writer angry that the Russians have rejected Western guardianship? Is Russia a super-power? No not anymore, but it will always be a power, occupying the center of the world and in control of those resources. If the Russians could have survived Napoleon, the last few Czars the Nazis and communisim and done well under them imagine what will happen once they recover? As for this comment: "the Russians are likely to face a long, slow, relatively peaceful decline into obscurity—a process that is well under way."? No nation that has the natural wealth and ability to make nuclear tipped ICBMs will ever be obscure. It may be that the Europeans needing that oil and gas even more from Russia, start to even champion her since she is to big for Europe to digest.

some advise to the Russians, empire is not its cracked up to be. Sit back and export natural resources, drink vodka and get fat. When the West needs you to save it again from themselves they know where you are.

97 Posted on 04/24/2001 17:42:05 PDT by Pericles

Who was that masked man???

21 posted on 05/25/2002 7:01:47 PM PDT by Spar
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To: Shermy
Follow da oil.
22 posted on 05/25/2002 7:06:57 PM PDT by mafree
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To: mafree
Hey guys you are right Russia has massive oil deposits under their country Vlad don't know where to start LOL! RACKKKKK OIL DEAL
23 posted on 05/25/2002 7:09:47 PM PDT by SevenofNine
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To: aristeides; Askel5; Boyd; crazykatz; Joe Montana; robbinsj; Spar; Wallaby
Russia diverts part of the US-Saudi cash flow- not to mention the fact that now we are occupied with policing their southern border looking for moslem terrorists (that's right, we're looking for terrorists on their borders, not ours). This should make the Russians feel safer.

This ain't over- as long as we remain multicultural enough to welcome moslem terrorists with expiring student visas. All we need is a continued set of color-coded threats on TV. Russia Inc. couldn't have hoped for a better marketing tool. The spending power of chubby dumbed-down, couch dwelling American humanoids is unlimited. The upside is the Russians could use the money. The downside is- enough wealth and the Russians will gain weight and watch too much TV.

Its been a couple of years since we dissected how all the klintoon benefactors made out on the rape of Russia. Now that we have a kinder and gentler administration, it will be more pleasant for Russia.

Can't wait to watch which GHWB insiders get the best pieces of the pie..............

As for Milosevic, it looks like that's been put back on the table. What Primakov has is a wild card.

24 posted on 05/25/2002 7:43:47 PM PDT by Hamiltonian
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To: Hamiltonian
Spasena Rossiya. Spasena teper' Rossiya. I Amerika.
25 posted on 05/25/2002 8:28:06 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Willie Green
It would be interesting to see a similar set of numbers for other raw materials and some finished materials as well. My suspicion is that this is not an oil trend, but an overall fact of life in america that very few industries are immune too. Only the industries that are impossible to export to cheap labor markets will remain in america....Construction, transportation, vendors and suppliers and retail, defense, various repair industries. And these industries will be awash in illegal aliens that receive reduced wages.
27 posted on 05/25/2002 9:07:16 PM PDT by mamelukesabre
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To: Shermy
the end of global oil injustice.

The problem with the scenario sketched out here is that nearly all the "injustices" ever recognized by the UN are related to the "inequitable distribution of wealth" that has been "perpetuated" by the "selfish" Western countries who refuse to "contribute" their "fair share" of their wealth to the "greater good."

I have never seen, even once, an acknowledgement in any UN or NGO forum of how utterly destructive the open racketeering of OPEC has been to the world's poorer economies. Had OPEC consisted of American corporations rather than national monopolies they would all have gone to jail.

I can't see the UN acting against OPEC at any time for any reason. If it can't be blamed on America/Israel/the West, than the UN has no patience for it.

28 posted on 05/25/2002 9:19:32 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Willie Green
Most of that "imported" oil now comes from Canada, Mexico and South America. I can live with that.
29 posted on 05/26/2002 4:04:57 AM PDT by DB
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Most of that "imported" oil now comes from Canada, Mexico and South America. I can live with that.

Fair enough.
I'm relatively unconcerned about the water and power shortages that plague NIMBY Kalifornians anyway. I've written the state off as a lost cause long ago.
Rather, I find their self-inflicted emergencies somewhat amusing.

For the rest of us, 65+% petroleum imports (46.3% of which is OPEC) is unacceptable.

30 posted on 05/26/2002 8:31:48 AM PDT by Willie Green
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To: denydenydeny
Good point about the UN and OPEC which should be repeated often.
31 posted on 05/26/2002 2:11:27 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Shermy
Thanks Shermy.

Wouldn't it be ironical that the 9/11 mass murders financed by the Opecker Princes and the thugs that control Iran/Iraq may turn out to be the critical event that turned off the oil spigot from the Opecker Countries.

Here in N. Kali we have seen the miracle of miracles. There has been a significant reduction 4 to 8 cents per gallon on gasoline in the days just before Memorial Day.

Those in the know, say that if we have no other terrorist actions or Opecker tricks, we will see more reductions in the price of oil before 4 July. Then stablization if not more lowering after 4 July.

Hopefully in 10 years, Opec will be just a disgusting footnote in our history, and Opec will be in the ashheap of bad things.

32 posted on 05/26/2002 2:46:59 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Shermy
Thanks. The consequences of high energy prices are more than economic for poor countries. In the developed world, forested land is growing enormously, while countries like Haiti and India have been essentially deforested by poor peasants in need of fuel.
33 posted on 05/26/2002 2:53:37 PM PDT by denydenydeny
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To: Willie Green
We have a lot of oil wells in and near the county (SLO) I live in and a nuclear power plant to boot. So don't tell me "not in my backyard". We have plenty in "my back yard" here and I'm not complaining about it either. I don't have a problem buying oil from our non-dictator neighbors.
34 posted on 05/26/2002 3:14:33 PM PDT by DB
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To: Hamiltonian
'Georgia on my mind'
35 posted on 05/27/2002 8:00:43 AM PDT by Boyd
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