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The Summit Oil Deal - Setting the Stage for even Bigger Oil Bargains
Russian Observer ^
| May 24, 2002
| Ira Straus
Posted on 05/25/2002 3:31:13 PM PDT by Shermy
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Food for thought. Found another article saying who this fellow is:
"Ira Straus is executive director of Democracy International, in Arlington, Va., and US coordinator for the independent Committee on Eastern Europe and Russia."
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:31:13 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: *Russia List; Jeremy Bentham; Grampa Dave; Cincinatus’ Wife; spar; mafree; Don Joe...
Ping.
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:33:35 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: *Energy_list
To: Shermy
Sounds sound until the UN part.
To: Shermy
Some of this sounds good but stage 4 and 5 where the UN takes control has some very negative implications for countries other than the middle east.
To: Shermy
If this deal happens it will put an end to our need for Arab oil. Watch our Gasoline prices drop below a dollar this summer, The Arabs will try to kill the deal by making it impossible for russia to match their prices. To hell with the Arabs
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:42:20 PM PDT
by
MJY1288
To: Miss Marple;Howlin;SevenofNine
A Stage 2 energy deal: Russia joins the International Energy Agency (IEA), a fair oil price is agreed upon for Russian oil, the West agrees to compensate Russia for financial losses when oil prices fall below this level, and Russia agrees to compete ruthlessly against OPEC to cut world oil prices as low as possible.MIss Marple...President is playing chess again ...while the media worries over the 20 commie protestors...LOL!
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:43:26 PM PDT
by
Dog
To: Fish out of Water
Bush will not get that involved with the UN and neither will Putin
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:44:24 PM PDT
by
MJY1288
To: Fish out of Water; Larry Johnson; swarthyguy
Interesting ideas, can be adjusted. U.N. - gag. Dispersal among the poor? I suggested to S.Guy that Pakistan and India put aside their diffs and occupy the place, divvying up the spoils. Heck, they got millions of people doing the real work their anyway! Call it "Islamic/Third World redistribution".
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:47:10 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Shermy
I see more support for your idea in the subcontinent than in Saudi itself. Which is another good reason for it!
To: Shermy
One other thing we could do which would be of huge mutual benefit: hand Kosovo back to its rightful owners BEFORE the UN starts demanding that we hand half of Florida, Texas, and California over to Mexico on the same perverted basis.
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:50:47 PM PDT
by
medved
To: Shermy
It makes Russia an ally of the West in a vital Western economic security interest.
U.S. Petroleum & Crude Oil Overview
(thousand barrels per day)
|
1960
|
1965
|
1970
|
1975
|
1980
|
1985
|
1990
|
1995
|
2000
|
U.S. Crude Oil Production |
7,035
|
7,804
|
9,637
|
8,375
|
8,597
|
8,971
|
7,355
|
6,560
|
5,834
|
U.S. Petroleum Imports |
1,815
|
2,468
|
3,419
|
6,056
|
6,909
|
5,067
|
8,018
|
8,835
|
11,093
|
Total
|
8,850
|
10,272
|
13,056
|
14,431
|
15,506
|
14,038
|
15,373
|
15,395
|
16,927
|
Imports as % of Total
|
20.5
|
24.0
|
26.2
|
42.0
|
44.6
|
36.1
|
52.2
|
57.4
|
65.5
|
Since the Arab Oil Embargo (almost 30 years ago), U.S. dependence on imported oil has risen from 25% to over 65%.
The REAL U.S. National Security interest is to REDUCE this dependence on imported oil.
The alternate sources of energy available that are most capable of providing the vast quantity necessary to achieve this are nuclear and clean-coal electric power generation.
Construction of modern, efficient, electricly-powered mass-transportation systems in our nation's most densely populated regions and urban areas would further reduce our petroleum consumption, thus enhancing our national security.
To: Shermy
"A UN energy agency could work closely with IEA to set overall management guidelines; a fair rent could be paid to the host states for use of their land."This guy who wrote this must of started on some serious drugs when he wrote #4 and #5. Why in hell would we want the U.N. involved or have any regulatory powers? A good article until 4 & 5
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posted on
05/25/2002 3:53:34 PM PDT
by
MJY1288
Comment #14 Removed by Moderator
To: Shermy
Interesting that aside from an article grousing about how Russia was selling out to the West, I have seen nothing in
Arab News about all the Russo-American deal making that is obviously forming an alliance against them. They must be sh*tting bricks !
And this is leaving out all the massive mineral wealth yet unexploited in Russia. The entry of Russia into the world economy on a massive scale could trigger one hell of a demand boom.
Funny how history and historical projection never take into account folly. That nations will from time to time do ridiculously stupid things. Saudi Arabia funding terrorism against both the US and Russia at the same time cannot be exceeded in terms of the purest folly.
I see a day, maybe ten years from now, when the Saudis are once again eating camel dung and the Twin Towers rise high and proud.
To: Tokhtamish
Funny how history and historical projection never take into account folly. That nations will from time to time do ridiculously stupid things. Saudi Arabia funding terrorism against both the US and Russia at the same time cannot be exceeded in terms of the purest folly. There you go again, looking at things through the prism of infidel logic? Any Saudimite can tell you that Allah only loves Muslims, who are following the One True Religion, and He is gonna come down from the sky and personally defeat the West for the sake of Islam...any day now.
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posted on
05/25/2002 4:23:22 PM PDT
by
kaylar
To: Shermy
Sorry, the whole thing is BS. When you start price-fixing and interfering in the free markets, you're going to get unintended consequences every time. If Russia wants to sign a long-term contract with some international oil company for oil deliveries, that's fine. That will protect them if the price drops.
But all this crap about strategically setting oil prices and UN control is all more big government planning over something that should never be controlled in the first place.
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posted on
05/25/2002 4:25:07 PM PDT
by
Dog Gone
To: Shermy
"
....it undoes their nationalization of oil, placing the oil and gas fields under global ownership and authority."Uh-oh! Look out for this!
To: Shermy
Phases 4&5 aside, this put a BIG smile on my face...:o]
To: Shermy; Hamiltonian
Great game set and match. In the end Russia fended off the wolves unleashed during the Clinton years long enough for them to deal with the West on more or less an equal footing. Too late for ex-Yugoslavia and Chechnya but like in most games, you can expect a foul or two.
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posted on
05/25/2002 6:46:12 PM PDT
by
Spar
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