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Bosnia trip radicalized Pearl slaying suspect
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| April 6, 2002
| Dafna Linzer
Posted on 05/20/2002 11:24:43 AM PDT by Spar
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:53:44 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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posted on
05/20/2002 11:24:44 AM PDT
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Spar
To: *Balkans; vooch
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posted on
05/20/2002 11:29:30 AM PDT
by
Spar
To: Spar
Of course, the US intervened in Bosnia, and Somalia, and Kosovo, to defend Muslims. And the US has been very open to Muslim immigration in the last decade. But Muslim paranoia leads them to see enemies even among the people who defend them, and to attack people who befriend them, and slaughter people who take them in.
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posted on
05/20/2002 11:31:41 AM PDT
by
marron
To: marron
We listened to the wrong peoples and backed the wrong sides.
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posted on
05/20/2002 11:33:56 AM PDT
by
Spar
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To: Spar
"Mr. Khan ...... "Muslims look around the world and they see themselves being persecuted everywhere. All of us come to the same conclusion, but we do different things."????
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posted on
05/20/2002 11:58:11 AM PDT
by
fella
To: marron
It's called ingratitude. It's rather common among the Muslims.
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posted on
05/20/2002 12:03:20 PM PDT
by
Banat
To: Tropoljac
We fought the Mujahadeen until Clinton the bastard forced us to stop under threat of sanctions.
Oh, oh, oh, poor Croatia. The Arkansas bastard imposed sanctions on us, but that did not prevent us from kicking the sh*t out of those cuttroaths and sending them to their beloved Allah.
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posted on
05/20/2002 12:06:02 PM PDT
by
Banat
To: Spar
Mr. Khan said he can understand Saeed's sense of injustice, but not his suspected actions. "Muslims look around the world and they see themselves being persecuted everywhere. All of us come to the same conclusion, but we do different things." Hmmm...when I look around the world, I see a lot more persecution by Muslims than of Muslims.
Where are Muslims persecuted?
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posted on
05/20/2002 12:09:32 PM PDT
by
B Knotts
To: Spar
Aquit Slobbo and send him here to New Jersey, we need a good cleansing.
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To: marron
We didn't defend Muslims per se in Bosnia and Kosovo........Clinton allied ourselves with the most extremist Islamist Fanatics possible......In Bosnia Clinton allied ourselves with Iztbegovic and his Mujhadeen pals, instead of the moderate Muslim Abdic (who happened to be legally elected President of Bosnia).......In Kosovo Clinton allied ourselves with the murderous KLA instead of loyalist Albanians............in both cases Clinton ended up funding, training, supplying, and promoting Al-Queeda operatives.
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posted on
05/20/2002 2:23:27 PM PDT
by
vooch
To: Tropoljac
Faith in action: A Muslim brigade of the Bosnian army marching in a military parade in Zenica, central Bosnia.
I know several Bosnian muslims, and they are not hardcore muslims at all. They eat pork, go to bars, etc, they're more like atheists than muslims. During the 90's, mujahiden from all over the middle east were pouring into Bosnia. They took Bosnian wives and settled there.
To: vooch, Spar, Banat, marron, B Knotts
One of the Bosnian Army's Muslim brigades marches through Zenica in a demonstration of strength by 10,000 soldiers.
To: vooch
We didn't defend Muslims per se in Bosnia and Kosovo........Clinton allied ourselves with the most extremist Islamist Fanatics possible...... No argument. Which makes the actions of the extremist in the above article just that more irrational.
We have been allied with the Saud family since, what, the 20's? And we have, in recent years, let them lead us in our dealings with the Muslim world. As a consequence, we have turned a blind eye to much of what the Saudis have been up to. We ignored their connections to the civil war in the Philipines. We supported the Chechens against the Russians (in part out of loyalty to the Turks). We have backed the Uighars against the Chinese. We have been silent when Christians were slaughtered in Indonesia, at least until the events in East Timor.
We supported the Taliban, ignored the Sudanese attacks on Christians in the south of Sudan.
I am not really criticizing us for having done so. We had a friendship with the Saudis, and were prepared to back them, or look the other way when we could not back them.
But those days are over.
But the Saudis have not quite figured out that the old days are over. They came to the Bush ranch to deliver a lecture, not realizing that they are over.
The fall of Baghdad will inevitably lead to a radical change in Saudi rule. That they do realize, which is perhaps why they seem to be trying to forstall the inevitable. The Saudi-American alliance of the past half-century is being replaced with a new Turkish-Russian-Indian-Israeli-American alliance. The Sauds will have to get on board, quickly, or be swept away.
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posted on
05/20/2002 2:51:19 PM PDT
by
marron
To: marron; vooch; Ungrateful
What is hard for many of the West to understand is encapsulated by Iztbegovic, the former President of the Bosnian Muslims. Like Hitler, he had written a book stating his views on how the Bosnian Muslim population, who were well intergrated to their ethnic Slavic Christian neighbors should seperate themselves and impose on Bosnia an Islamic system that is very much Talibanish. Iztbegovic declared that Islam must dominate and can not co-exist with any other way of life.
That is why we can aid Muslim regimes (note I say regimes not individuals) and in many cases they still turn on us.
In many ways, the Islamic system sees Westerners as dhimmis and expects them to provide aid since as it is written in the Koran it is required of dhimmis to provide a poll tax in service to the Islamic community, which I think is spelled in English as Ullimah.
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posted on
05/20/2002 3:58:24 PM PDT
by
Spar
To: Ungrateful, Abrit, Hoplite, Torie
thks for the images, now perhaps Hoplite can repeat his mantra that the unelected Iztbegovic regime was a moderate choice for Clinton to back.......and that there is NO connection between Al-Queeda and Iztbegovic
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posted on
05/20/2002 5:49:50 PM PDT
by
vooch
To: vooch
Moderation is a relative matter. Maybe you think the Serb partisans in Bosnia were moderate. Maybe you think Slobo was moderate. Maybe you think Savronola was moderate, or the Guise (sp) family in France.
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posted on
05/20/2002 7:48:46 PM PDT
by
Torie
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