Posted on 05/14/2002 9:34:39 PM PDT by Diago
PRAY!
God made me heterosexual. So what's your point? Gay or straight, we are all subject to God's laws. Sexual union outside of marriage between a man and wife is forbidden, both for the gay and for the straight.
Too often, we would rather change God than ourselves.
With all due respect, Sister, are you saying that heterosexuals have sexual contact with members of the same gender with the same frequency as homosexuals?
Most of the abuse is male on male. Homosexuality behavior is male on male.
If the subject weren't so serious, her comment would be laughable.
It would be very interesting to learn how this reporter got this charecter's name to use in his article.
Cleveland resident Brian Halderman is a faithful Catholic who plans to join the Marianist religious order -- the Society of Mary -- this summer as an openly gay man.
``Silence is violence on this issue,'' said the 25-year-old Halderman, a member of Ascension Catholic Church in Cleveland. ``Part of the body of Christ is gay, whether you like it or not.''
Halderman, who works for the Cleveland Diocese as the technology utilization manager in its secretariat for education, said he is bothered by conservative members of the church who believe gay Catholics are promoting a homosexual agenda.
``I have no other agenda than that of the gospel and my work is to build the kingdom,'' said Halderman, who is part of a Cleveland Diocese-sponsored support group for gays and lesbians.``If we all stayed focused on loving one another and building the kingdom here on Earth, we would live in a better church and a better world.''
Cleveland resident Brian Halderman is a faithful Catholic who plans to join the Marianist religious order -- the Society of Mary -- this summer as an openly gay man.
``Silence is violence on this issue,'' said the 25-year-old Halderman, a member of Ascension Catholic Church in Cleveland. ``Part of the body of Christ is gay, whether you like it or not.''
Halderman, who works for the Cleveland Diocese as the technology utilization manager in its secretariat for education, said he is bothered by conservative members of the church who believe gay Catholics are promoting a homosexual agenda.
``I have no other agenda than that of the gospel and my work is to build the kingdom,'' said Halderman, who is part of a Cleveland Diocese-sponsored support group for gays and lesbians.``If we all stayed focused on loving one another and building the kingdom here on Earth, we would live in a better church and a better world.''
You may also want to check out this guy's website where he has links to "Out in Cleveland."
Sorry pal, but you should be defrocked and excommunicated. They know the Church teaching yet blatantly preach against it.
A sure sign that this Order is a "gay haven".
See the homosexual men dressed as priests, nuns and women?
And this guy is a devout Catholic who wants to be a priest?
A Siobhan hopping mad ping....
I started reading it last night, and can already tell that it is a good book, with page after page of well-documented proofs about the disobedience and borderline heresy that persists in many dioceses.
I think every Catholic ought to read this book:
"Openly gay," huh? That's a laugh. It doesn't even meet the liberal idea of ordaining someone with "homosexual" orientation who (theoretically) renounces the perversion and embraces a chaste, celibate, and non-homosexual life, as questionably advocated by those sympathetic to this. The reason why there are valid "Catholic" concerns about ordaining perverts has something to do with the fact that desiring genital relations with the same gender is gravely disordered whereas the heterosexual impulses of a heterosexual man who becomes a priest are normal. The latter is in accord with natural law, the former is not. Being "openly gay" is to seek to define oneself directly and deliberately in terms of sexual identity. In technical terms, it indicates an inordinate attachment to sensuality inconsistent with a Catholic religious vocation. Desiring to have sex with another man is, shall we say, a rather LARGE red flag in the area of the Catholic priesthood. We don't need any more of that. Whenever this unnatural and disordered desire disfigures the public self-presentation and personality of the man in question to a pathological degree raising concerns that it is beyond his self-control, the psychological fitness for priestly ordination has NOT been achieved. This is just common sense. And a good insurance bet.
Bishops and their staff need to consider the damage that is done to the priesthood and the Church when they place homosexuals in official positions in the Church.
That is blasphemy.
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