State Plans Offensive in Sprawl War

Los Angeles Times ^ | May 12, 2002 | EVAN HALPER

[Ben Ficklin]

California sets the trends for the rest of the nation.

[secretagent]

"Smart growth is really plantation maintenance."

Good one!

[editor-surveyor]

No, the links are not "dead" - Your typing is though ;o)

Craige McMillan slams socialists' contempt for private property

Henry Lamb decries international attempts to grab land in America

Joan Veon learns globalist group partnering with Prince Charles

[editor-surveyor]

I take back what I said about your typing, it's the FR composer page that is doing something to insert spaces into the URL's (???)

Let's try that again:

Craige McMillan slams socialists' contempt for private property

Henry Lamb decries international attempts to grab land in America

Joan Veon learns globalist group partnering with Prince Charles

[mafree]

bump

[monday]

"Lower property tax and increase land transfer tax and this problem would be solved. There would be no incentive for people to sell there land to developers."

How about just letting people do what they want with their land? You and the Democrats are the only ones that see a problem that doesn't exist.

[Born to Conserve]

"How about just letting people do what they want with their land? You and the Democrats are the only ones that see a problem that doesn't exist."

People who want to keep their land, cannot. They can't afford to pay the taxes. If you have a farm that's been in your family for generations, and the suburban sprawl moves out around it, your land values go up and your taxes go up, and you have to sell to the developers. That's not "letting people do what they want with their land". There is a problem, you are blind.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!

[E.G.C.]

This is all an act of the Demorats and the RINO's helping them. Hopefully, everyone will remember this when they go to the polls in November.

[metesky]

How has this come to pass? How can it be stopped?

Attack, attack, attack.

Make it uncomfortable to be a planner. Let them know that at everyone of their meetings you and a group of like-minded citizens will be there with your charts, graphs, cartoons and copies of the Constitution.

Mock planners and planning at every opportunity. Point out that it is planners that got us where we are now and they have the gall (as all bureaucrats do) to now tell us that they can solve our problems if only they have more money, power and control.

In fact, deny there is a problem and repeat it and hammer it home. It's a nonexistant problem.

"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." -H. L. Mencken

[hedgetrimmer]

HELP!

I have tried to sort through our county code just to find out exactly how the planning process is supposed to work, but to no avail. How is it supposed to work? We have a group in our area (an NGO no less) that has come up with a plan. They claim the plan is built on citizen input. But, they have held meetings disreguarding citizen input, and now have a version they fully expect to be codified that they won't let us, the property owners and voters even see before they present it to the board of supervisors. I know this isn't the process, but what is?

[metesky]

I have tried to sort through our county code just to find out exactly how the planning process is supposed to work, but to no avail.

That is the exact purpose of writing vague, incomprehensible rules and regulations: to keep the citizen in the dark until it's too late.

How is it supposed to work?

The Constitution guarantees every state a republican form of government. That is how it's supposed to work, but doesn't.

We have a group in our area (an NGO no less) that has come up with a plan. They claim the plan is built on citizen input. But, they have held meetings disreguarding citizen input, and now have a version they fully expect to be codified that they won't let us, the property owners and voters even see before they present it to the board of supervisors.

You have been Delphi'd, a technique used to build false consensus. Very insidious and dangerous to our way of life. It's like a meeting of the Comintern where input is asked for as a show of co-operation, then rejected.

I know this isn't the process, but what is?

It is what the process has become.

Expect FreepMail.

[madfly]

They move them to archive,edit the URL and take out the "%20".

So this is what I've learned about WND links.

If I repost links from WND that I have saved, I need to check them to see if they have since been moved to the archive.
If so, I need to deleted the 20% out of this portion of the URL:

as20%p? change to asp20%.

Is this the answer?

[metesky]

United Property Owners

American Policy Center: Property Rights

American Homeowners Resource Center

It's a start...

[blackie]

Bump !!

[hammerdown]

Looks that way to me...
but,ya'nevva' know:)

McMillan:
http://wnd.com/news/article.as%20p?ARTICLE_ID=26367

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26367

[Leisler]

Wear a white, short sleeved shirt with a pocket protector full of pens, and black slacks pulled up to your rib cage. White socks and black shoes. Go up to the planners and ask them if they are familiar with Revelations and that you hear voices and believe they are Satan’s emissaries sent to prepare the way for the anti-Christ. Sprinkle Evan water on them and start mumbling . Then back away jibberishing in Latin.

I don’t know if it will stop them but it should make them uncomfortable. Maybe so many Volvo driving, tree hugging , bunny raping limp wrist eco-nazis will quit being annoying busy bodies. Just a thought.