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Adding Trillions Of Years To The Life Of The Universe
spacedaily.com ^ | 3 May 02 | staff

Posted on 05/03/2002 9:41:32 AM PDT by RightWhale

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To: RightWhale
It just keeps growing and growing with pauses between growth cycles

It seems that Obler’s Paradox would put some constraints on this theory.

101 posted on 05/04/2002 12:44:17 PM PDT by nimdoc
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To: PatrickHenry
Placemarker.
102 posted on 05/04/2002 2:16:52 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: nimdoc
Obler’s Paradox

Is that the correct spelling? Refresh my mind, please, if you would, what is Olber's paradox, in the style of Olber's Paradox for Dummies.

103 posted on 05/04/2002 6:54:02 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale; RadioAstronomer
what is Olber's paradox,

If the Universe is infinte, then why is the sky dark at night?

In an infinite, homogenous, isotropic Universe, the amount of stellar matter increases at exactly the same rate as light intensity decreases, as a function of distance. Thus, every direction you look in, one should eventually encounter the surface of some star. Obscuring matter (dust) makes no difference, as over time the dust would be heated by radiation and radiate the same amount of energy it was "blocking". This means the sky should look like the average surface brightness of a star, but it doesn't.

The classical explanation for Olber's paradox is that the expansion of the Universe accounts for diminished contribution to night sky brightness as distance increases, due to redshift = reduced energy (e=h*nu). Other alternatives include the Universe not being infinite.

104 posted on 05/04/2002 7:28:23 PM PDT by longshadow
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Another explanation is the absorbtion of light energy as it travels.

Again, plasma theory offers several reasonable explanations. The big bang theory does not.

105 posted on 05/04/2002 7:49:50 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Another explanation is the absorbtion of light energy as it travels.

If you mean absorption by interstellar dust, gas clouds, etc., it does NOT explain the darkness of the night sky. Any absorbing medium would eventually reach thermal equilibrium, and radiate the same amount of energy it was absorbing, which from an observer's standpoint of sky brightness, is the same as having no absorbing material at all.

There is no incompatibility between the Big Bang Theory and Olber's Paradox.

107 posted on 05/04/2002 7:59:25 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: longshadow
Other alternatives include the Universe not being infinite.

That's right, I forgot it had a name.

109 posted on 05/04/2002 9:31:46 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
When are we going to get Hinduism out of science?!?!?!?!? LOL
110 posted on 05/04/2002 9:42:18 PM PDT by Cleburne
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To: Cleburne
It's true, modern science appears to be an import from Eastern countries, the lands of Hinduism and the lands of Islam. Many will say, oh, no, that cannot be, what about Aristotle and Plato. That is a valid point; Pagan science died with Paganism and had to be reintroduced to the West. Like the rabbits that were introduced to Australia, or the Argentinian ants introduced to the warm coast of France, science had no serious natural enemies in the West, and so multiplied without limit even while dying out in the lands of the East.
111 posted on 05/04/2002 10:19:43 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: longshadow
Also do not forget about the Alpha Lyman Forest:

http://lca.ncsa.uiuc.edu:8080/LyA/minivoid.html

112 posted on 05/04/2002 11:54:07 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: RightWhale
Does this replacement of "eastern mysticism" by "Western capitalsim & engineering" (much different than "Grecian philosphy"!) imply perhaps that one works ....

... and the other leads to starvation and early death.

113 posted on 05/05/2002 8:03:58 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
As well as this new kind of earth worship, very much opposed to science and ingineering.
114 posted on 05/05/2002 10:07:53 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
I'm going to be lazy and not do the calculations, but if a particle within the sun is undergoing billions to trillions of collisions every second, it seems reasonable to assume that the collision rate would increase during an explosion or implosion during periods between the end of the hydrogen cycle and the beginning of the helium cycle, or the end of the helium cycle and the beginning of the carbon cycle. (That may just be the longest sentence I've ever written.) During the sun's death throes, there would be enormous pressure waves traveling through the sun's core allowing a much larger number of high energy collisions to occur.

So I'm curious why you think repetitive fusion can't occur under these conditions and what your methodology is for your analysis.

115 posted on 05/06/2002 8:04:29 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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