CHP steps in to protect records in Oracle probe

sacbee.com ^ | Thursday, May 2, 2002 | Bee Capitol Bureau

[southern rock]

CHP is the only state-level law enforcement agency.

"Just doing our job!"

[Hugin]

Oracle is the next Enron.

I wouldn't count on it. Really quite different situtaions. Enron was a corporate scandal that the Dems tried to turn into a government (meaning Republican) scandal. This is a government (meaning Democrat) scandal, that the Dems will try to morph into a business scandal. But from what I've heard about it Oracle really didn't do anyhing illegal, just took advantage of a bunch of political hack rubes to sell them something for way more than it should have cost.

[d14truth]

Gensa, and our old friends at CIBC

Amicus FSB of Fairfield is a division of Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce. A PDF link, haven't found an HTML one.

Time for a few more aspirin--ORACLE may be a 'diversion' from whatever it is GENSA is drawing off in contracts.

[Grampa Dave]

When I have brought up my friend's question re if anyone has seen a CHP pulling over a speeding trucker since Davis has become Benito II with the exception of what you mentioned re the publicized actions, everyone has a blank look. They can't remember seeing it happen. They can remember being tailgated at 70 and 75 and passed at those speeds by big riggers.

Apparently about 2 years ago on I5 between Woodland and the Sac Airport, the truckers got so dangerous, that they were cracked down on and hard. My mother in law came out to visit. I picked her up and we were tailgated or passed at 70 and 75 mph on that route on the way home. I had two truckers honking their horns while tailgating me at 70-75 in the right lane. I took her back about 3 weeks later and every trucker was doing 55. Apparently the CHP really hammered them in that zone. One probably tailgated Benito II, and his trucking firm hadn't donated to Davis's re election fund.

[gaspar]

Man this is BIG! Larry Ellison, Oracle CEO, has been one of the biggest Democrat backers over the last fifteen years. He considers himself a personal friend of the Clintons and Gores. I have a hunch that Cal's Lockyer, who miraculously has managed to avoid jail time, had to act because the FBI was going to move in.

[DontMessWithMyCountry]

Timing is everything. Fortunately, i sold off my Oracle stock last year (big profit, hallelujah). Now, if only i had thought to do that with my MSFT ;-)

[eureka!]

Bump for Simon while it continues to rain...

[lelio]

I'm not so sure this is an Oracle scandal rather than a money grab by the Oracle VAR Logicon that sold the services to the state. Here's a little more background info.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

It is getting real interesting!

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[DontMessWithMyCountry]

I'm not really up to speed on this whole situation, but what i was wondering when i read this report was why it is not Logicon who is being placed under the microscope--before Oracle.

[Grampa Dave]

On 12 July 1995, the 271 State Police Officers were merged into the CHP program. At that time the California State Police Program closed up: (link to end of California State Police)

I knew that I have seen and even met California State Police, but I could not remember seeing them for a while. This is why.

I was right in that we had them, and you were correct that they aren't there anymore. It is just the highway patrol.

[randita]

Any idea how much Ellison has given to Gray Davis?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Grampa Dave -- Someone identified an article you posted last August on this fiasco.

I was going to bump it into the current Calgov2002 list since it had some nice detail. But the older threads can't be touched for updates. We ought to do something!

Here it is:

California let rules slide in Oracle contract!
Source: San Jose Mercury News
Published: 17 August 2001 Author: NOAM LEVEY
Posted on 08/17/2001 08:37:02 PDT by Grampa Dave

[gc4nra]

Freeper named Jim just asked Bill Simon on the Larry Elder Show KABC790 if he had heard of this story. Simon said he was aware. Go Simon! Go Jim, whoever you are!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

See the article at the link at post #33 for the beginning!

[gc4nra]

"He and his fellow officer dressed in Blue had a pistol and their shotgun aimed at the truck driver who was in the position against the real end of his truck."

Down here in SoCal the CHP truck enforcement detail wear blue jumpsuit uniforms and drive Dodge Rams or all white cruisers.

[Grampa Dave]

You nailed it for me. I have been sitting wondering about my memory after I posted no more State Cops after July 1995.

Yet I remember the guys in blue with an all white sedan and then you posted:

Down here in SoCal the CHP truck enforcement detail wear blue jumpsuit uniforms and drive Dodge Rams or all white cruisers.

Thanks, I was starting to get a headache because I saw this after I retired in 1996, and I was doing some consulting in Bakersfield and heading to Fresno when I saw this in May of 97. (I just checked my old expense reports)

Up here they use 4 wheel drive vehicles in the truck enforcement detail, at least around here.

Thanks

[DontMessWithMyCountry]

ahhh, 'i see', said the blind man to his deaf son. Thank you for the link info. Still, Logicon should be next on the chopping block, i would surmise. No?

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the ping and the find.

Good thing that sharp freeper found this last August, oops that was old/odd Grampa Dave.

This is what really angers me about the pressitutes in Kali. If this had been done by republicans with a republican governor, it would have been all over the news each day in the fish wraps and each evening in the evening news.

Since it was about Rats, it was buried.

Noam did some good reporting on the power fiasco last year. I tried to get him to follow up on the water flows and he didn't have the time or inclination to follow up. He is not a friend of Benito II, Davis.

[Grampa Dave]

You posted, "Any idea how much Ellison has given to Gray Davis?

I'm sure that before Monday AM the blood hounds on FR who like to sniff out this stuff will be reporting on it. Down to the legal penny. Of course how many of the Whoreacle worker bees donated money and consultants to Whoreacle donated money and ??????