Posted on 04/25/2002 4:43:48 PM PDT by history_matters
Tell me about it. Guess where I am.
If I could, I would move to the Diocese of Rockford, which is only a few miles away. God bless Archbishop Doran!
...the bishops needs to know that Catholics will not simply defer to their judgements, since these have been so flawed.You summed up well how many of us feel. But we must not allow ourselves to become embittered and forget to fast, pray, sacrifice and work as hard as we can for Christ the Lord.
I was kind of on the fence about Cardinal George (I don't have enough info about him to decide what I think) but if NOW hates him, that might be all I need to know! He must be doing something right.
Why doesn't he stop the wreckovations then?
Then why did he invite the gays to a special Mass? He knew the group he invited were the radical type and would be in mortal sin. Everyone was scandalized!
Cardinal George does have a problem -- he has a family member -- a niece or a nephew -- who is gay. This affects his decision-making ability when it comes to homosexuality-related problems.
On Fox News, the day the cardinals were travelling to Rome, they caught him at the airport. (For some reason Archbishop Justin Rigali was with him.) In answer to a question I don't remember, he said (actual quote),
Does that sound like a man who's going to do anything about the root cause of the scandal?
General Absolution, and why it is bad?Absolution here refers to one element of the Sacrament of Reconciliation (confession). In the Catholic Church Reconcillation must be by individual confession of sins and absolution (the part where the priest pronounces that your sins are forgiven). That is, you have to go speak in person to the priest, one on one.
General absolution is where you don’t do that. You sit in a large group of people and the priest simply waives his hands and pretends that you are all forgiven. It is not a valid form of the Sacrament, and thus is an abuse.
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Taking the case of 911, the fire department chaplain definitely issued a General Absolution to his men. What of the people who died in mortal sin, choosing to jump instead of being incinerated? Would that be considered a mortal sin? And would a General Absolution cover that?
Taking the case of 911, the fire department chaplain definitely issued a General Absolution to his men. What of the people who died in mortal sin, choosing to jump instead of being incinerated? Would that be considered a mortal sin? And would a General Absolution cover that?Well, general absolution wasn’t issued to them, and they didn’t seek it so far as I know.
The jumpers committed suicide, which is perhaps a sin, but I don’t see how on earth that could be a mortal sin. Fortunately I am not the judge of these things. To my limited understanding the severity of any sin depends a great deal on the circumstances in situations like that. With thousands of gallons of jet fuel and the unimaginable horror of that situation it is hard to place blame on the jumpers. They were going to die anyway, they just chose the different and clearly less painful method.
May they rest in peace.
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the other people who died that day, in terrible fear and pain and without a chance to make their peace with God, are they hell-bound?I can’t answer that and would hesitate to trust anyone who thought he could. We don’t know the shape of their souls, only God can judge that. All we can really say is that if they were in a state of mortal sin when they died (IMHO jumping would not be enough to put you in mortal sin) and they did not repent, then yes they are headed down.
We need Grace to be able to go to God after our earthly death. Grace is spiritual life, a free gift from God. If our soul does not have Grace it is dead, incapable of life. Mortal sin causes this death. As for what you have to do to repent in a situation like that, I don’t know. I imagine some of those people were praying for salvation as they died, and God truly knows their hearts, I don’t. I pray that He does have mercy on their souls.
Death is truly a hard thing. It can come at any time, so as the Bible warns we need to be prepared at all times, even when we go to work in a skyscraper. We could die on the way there, we could die while there. Undoubtedly of the 3000 people who died some went to God, some went to hell. I can’t say which are which.
I’m not giving you a good concrete answer here, I know that this is vague and apologize for that. If I were capable of giving a better answer I would give it.
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