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What Really Happened in Rome?
Catholic World Report | April 25, 2002 | Philip F. Lawler

Posted on 04/25/2002 3:48:29 PM PDT by choirboy

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To: Mike Fieschko; NYer
An Archbishop does have some influence over the Ordinaries in his area.
21 posted on 04/25/2002 8:54:53 PM PDT by patent
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To: choirboy
Hmmm. Perhaps the Pope is going to give them one last chance to get their acts together before he rolls some heads. Law doesn't deserve another chance. Perhaps in a few months he will 'offer' his resignation.
22 posted on 04/25/2002 9:07:21 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: vannrox
Q:What Really Happened in Rome? A:Nothing.

You are absolutely correct.

23 posted on 04/25/2002 9:08:10 PM PDT by Anticommie
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To: patent
An Archbishop does have some influence over the Ordinaries in his area.

I was under the impression that "Archbishop" was simply a bishop who was in charge of a single diocese that was particularly large -- that is, the "arch" was no indication of a further reach of authority than any other bishop. Was I incorrect?

24 posted on 04/25/2002 9:13:49 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Proud2BAmerican
Yes, but this isn't terribly well known, and easier to describe on paper than in reality.
An archbishop or metropolitan, in the present sense of the term, is a bishop who governs a diocese strictly his own, while he presides at the same time over the bishops of a well-defined district composed of simple dioceses but not of provinces. Hence none of these subordinate bishops rule over others. These bishops are called the suffragans or comprovincials. The archbishop's own diocese is the archdiocese. The several dioceses of the district form the archiepiscopal, or metropolitan, province.

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Jurisdiction

The jurisdiction of the archbishop is twofold, episcopal and archiepiscopal. The first extends to his own diocese exclusively and comprises the rights and powers of the fullest government of the diocese, clergy and laity, spiritual and temporal, except as restricted by Church law. Unless such restriction be clearly stated in law, the presumption is in favour of the episcopal authority. The contrary holds in regard to the archiepiscopal authority. It extends to the province and the suffragan bishops only in as far as it is explicitly stated in the law. Where the law is silent, the presumption is against the archbishop. Be it remembered, however, that rightfully established and approved custom obtains the force of law. Archiepiscopal jurisdiction, being permanently attached to the office as such, is ordinary jurisdiction, not merely delegated or vicarious. It reaches immediately the suffragan bishops, and mediately the faithful of their dioceses.

Cardinals, when they have a diocese, generally have an archdiocese.

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25 posted on 04/25/2002 9:29:44 PM PDT by patent
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To: choirboy
Not discussing homosexuality takes nothing away from his analysis

That would be so if he had not expressly used the term "pedophile priests" twice in his analysis. Denial is what has led to this leadership crisis, and denial, through use of euphimistic terms by Catholic writers, further promotes the hypocrisy.

26 posted on 04/25/2002 9:58:43 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: patent
Thank you very much for the information.
27 posted on 04/25/2002 10:07:18 PM PDT by Proud2BAmerican
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To: patent
Thank you for sharing your knowledge about authority within the Church.

I need to write a letter to Prefect Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He is the primary authority within the CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH.

According to a Vatican web page the CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF FAITH has responsibility for overseeing "....«the duty proper to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is to promote and safeguard the doctrine on the faith and morals throughout the Catholic world: for this reason everything which in any way touches such matter falls within its competence.»

The congregation is now headed by Prefect Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. It has a secretary, Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone, S.D.B., an under-secretary, P. Joseph Augustine Di Noia, O.P., and a staff of 31...."

By chance, do you know of a street address where Cardinal Ratzinger receives his mail?

I will express my bewilderment at the total failure of this commission to correct the sin plaguing American seminaries, and ask him to detail what action the commission is taking to halt the influx of seminarians who do not accept the Bible's instruction against sodomy.

This recent "summit" in Rome did nothing to confront America's expanding spiritual crisis, or the incredible financial damage sodimite priests have inflicted with the overt protection and encouragement of their superiors.

Evil is as evil does.

It is also my intent to ask Cardinal Ratzinger to have his commission review the kind of instruction provided seminarians in America, as well as the membership of seminary applicant review panels. Common knowledge suggest the genesis for the unforgivable evil within the Church has its roots here.

Jesus drove out the money changers for desecrating the House of His Father. The presence today of this disgusting evil within His Father's House demands a replication of His outrage.

28 posted on 04/26/2002 3:10:47 AM PDT by Robert Drobot
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To: history_matters
Yes! C a r d i n a l . . . B r u s k e w i t z !

Man, you really got my hopes up!

29 posted on 04/26/2002 6:07:19 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: goldenstategirl
Cardinal Law may go by June, but Mahony, McCarrick and Egan need to be removed forthwith.
30 posted on 04/26/2002 6:12:24 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: Robert Drobot
I don't know Cardinal Ratzinger's address, but others have posted some of them on other Catholic threads, maybe the Vatican address can be psoted here too. You should probably also right to the Congregation for the Clergy.

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31 posted on 04/26/2002 7:16:32 AM PDT by patent
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To: history_matters
Oh I'm with you on that. I was just trying to figure out what might be going on inside the Pope's mind.

So what's the plan?

32 posted on 04/26/2002 10:42:47 AM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Robert Drobot
The Holy Father's address is said to be:

His Holiness Pope John Paul II
The Apostolic Palace
La Santa Sede
00120 Vatican City
ITALY
Europe

33 posted on 04/26/2002 10:46:49 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: Domestic Church
Do you have Cardinal Ratzinger's address? If so, would you post it along with the address for H.E. Dario Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos? Many thanks.
34 posted on 04/26/2002 10:48:41 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: goldenstategirl
Sadly, I think this is the plan from Rome.
35 posted on 04/26/2002 11:14:47 AM PDT by history_matters
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To: choirboy
I nominate Eugene Cardinal Clark.
36 posted on 04/27/2002 7:31:02 AM PDT by Dajjal
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