Good news, bad news on summer power rates : 20% increase seen, but it mostly will be offset (CAL)

The San Diego Union Tribune ^ | April 20, 2002 | Craig D. Rose

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[Angelique]

There is a history where in San Jose, across from what is now the post office--a beautiful building. The history is that folks tore open what was then the jail, and strung up an accused murderer in the park across the street. Sometimes, vigilantes are called for. After all, Gray stole a lot of votes.

[jocko12]

DO'NT WORRY GOV.DOOFUS WILL SEE THAT YOU PAY THE 20% RATE INCREASE!!!!

[quimby]

Most customers now pay about $70 monthly for electricity, or 40 percent more than they did in 1999, prior to the crisis in the state's deregulated power market.

Customers pay that plus the amount the state is paying, which is now causing an increase in state taxes.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Of course the Rich folks will gladly pick up that tab for the rest of us!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Maybe we should get up a posse and revisit and reenact such a historical event!

LOL!

[Dog Gone]

Californians are certainly fortunate that their climate doesn't require the use of as much electricity as some other parts of the country.

Here in the Houston area during the summer, I use about 434 kwh per week.

[Ditter]

These California people are clueless about what a cheap deal they have going on. $70 a month is nothing. (I am in Houston too, Dog Gone )

[Beach_Babe]

$70 a month is nothing.

I agree, I pay twice that in Florida!

California is also now charging out-of-state oversize load escorts a fee just to enter the state. We were told California needs the money, so they are requiring us to have the registration which costs $300 per year. Violation of registration laws is a midemeanor and conviction could result in fines up to $1000 dollars, six months in jail, or seizure of the vehicle involved.

I guess we're their offset....

[snopercod]

"Averages" are really misleding when it comes to energy use. You are lumping in millions of city people who live in apartments along coast and don't use much electricity with rural people who have to pump their own water and need air conditioning. (The electricity used to supply water to city dwellers shows up on their water bill, not their electric bill.)

California offers no break in the "baseline rates" for rural people who are on water wells.

As a consequence, the predominantly republican rural residents pay through the nose each month for electricity in order to subsidize the predominantly democrat city folks.

Nice scam, Davis!

[Ditter]

Yes I understand that & everyones house is not the same size & I know we all hate it when the bills come, but I must tell you Houston has HUGE water bills. The money goes into the general fund & does not represent what the water actually costs. I have a big yard & in dry hot summers my water bill equals or surpasses my electricity bill. $500+ per month for water & sewage is not unusually if we have no rain. My electricity & water bills (together) run $1000+ per month in the summer. My house is fairly big but you CA people better not move here if you are looking for cheap utilities.

[Dog Gone]

The incredible water rates in Houston only apply to those within the city limits. As you point out, the city has decided that it's a great revenue source, and the water bills have nothing to do with cost of providing water.

Those "Houstonians" who live outside the city limits pay a fraction of that amount. For example, my average sewer and water bill combined is about $35 per month, slightly higher in the summer when I'm watering the yard.

[Grampa Dave]

Shh! Don't wake up the sheeple who vote for abortion, gay rights, more Cali dumbing down instutitions and Fascist Davis.

If businesses pay more for electricity, they will be told by the Rats and their commy/consumer groups that they are getting a partial free lunch re their electricity. They will get glassy eyed and have mental orgasisms and vote for Davis again. A partial free lunch for their electrical bill is part of their Kali Konstitutional Rights!

Of course thanks to aids dementia, dumbing down from the Kali so called schools and inhaling all the time, none of them are smart enought realize a basic business principle.

When costs to businesses increase, they either pass those costs on to their customers (these brain dead Rat sheeple) or they go out of business.

Of course, the more businesses that close their doors, the less electricity is needed. That one of the factors that has saved Davis is our poor economy and businesses closing do to his lack of leadership.

Last but not least Club Sierra and other enviral groups that hate people living in Kali get very happy when businesses close their doors because this often forces people to leave Kali to look for jobs.

[Tribune7]

Is this announcement having any impact on the Guv race?

[Dog Gone]

When given a choice, the voters will always vote for The Free Lunch. Californians are no different in that regard than most other voters.

What is different is that you have a Governor who maintains that the state's residents are entitled to The Free Lunch, and anyone who disagrees with that is a greedy gouger, probably from out of state.

Unfortunately, as you so aptly pointed out, businesses are finding that the cost of doing business in California is getting higher all the time. If those businesses have competition from out of state, they will die, because they will be undersold.

That further reduces tax revenue to the state, which will find itself increasingly unable to provide the infrastructure for a rapidly growing population.

California might make some needed changes if Bill Simon defeats Governor Davis this fall. And he just might, because Davis isn't promising The Free Lunch. He's promising abortions.

[snopercod]

$500+ per month for water & sewage

Now that's a Texas-Sized bill! If I may ask, is this just for a single family residence, or a small acreage.

[Ditter]

Single family, almost one acre. Very quick draining pourous soil. I have lots of plants & flowers that need summer watering. The Gulf coast can have a flood or a drought any time of year, we do not have the set weather patterns of CA. If it rains in the summer my water bills go down.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Too soon to tell.

I think it should, but Davis will try to get past it by attacking Simon over other issues as he is doing already!

If Davis can get his Power Bonds plan activated he can blunt much of the bad financial fallout from last summer!

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

"baseline rates" -- They are playing some major games with this technique!

I have very minimal electrical usage, in a small Garden Cooperative apartment - all Electric. I keep the electric heating turned off in the winter, no A/C but do have Electric hot Water Heater and Range. And I still run over the baseline and am up close to $100.00 a month.