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Hate Speech Alleged Against Bay Buchanan @ Ithaca College
http://www.ithaca.edu/ithacan/articles/0204/11/news/1bias_concern.htm ^
Posted on 04/15/2002 9:44:51 PM PDT by IthacaRepublicans
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To: Fish out of Water
Oh where to start....
Being a private college Ithaca has a lot more latitude in who should be allowed to speak on campus and what subjects are discussed.
Ithaca, if it is truly a private college, is entitled to act in any manner they wish. However, they can, and will, earn the "stamp of illegitemacy", much as Bob Jones University has. Good luck finding a job, if Ithaca gets branded as radically leftist, with a company, whose leaders do not subscribe to the colleges' "philosophy". The Supreme Court, has so ruled.
Those who dont like the choices made can find an alternative school.
This comment only serves to marginalize and diminish the argument that you are trying to make. This statement smacks of totalarianism, which is entirely the thrust of the article in question, and further serves to illustrate the fact that if one does not subscribe to your agenda, then they should not be allowed to dissent.
Free speech does not entitle anyone to come on to my property and make offensive comments to me.
With this comment, it is interesting, how you use the analogy of "my property", to disallow the differing opinion. If the argument were reversed, would this also pertain to the other sides' right to deny you the right to protest to the various "bias" commitees, were they in the majority? Unless you have a deed, or controlling interest in this college, this statement is absurd, in its entirety. Free Speech does allow someone to come to the edge of your property, and protest, as long as they don't violate your private property rights. This protest could be launched with the aid of Public address systems, which surely negate any advantage you may be attempting to gain, by denying access to your property.
To: goodnesswins
The point I was trying to make was that being a private school Ithaca should have a lot more flexibility in what speech they allow. If we start trying to dictate what choices Ithaca has to make we are opening up a can of worms that the liberals will use against us. Being a private school Ithaca should be allowed great latitude in deciding who comes and speaks on their campus and on what subjects. It would be nice if they were more open minded but we have no right to force them to be. Any reasoning we might try to require their tolerance of other ideas could be used to force Private Christian schools to allow unchristian ideas to be freely taught and discussed.
To: Fish out of Water
But, but, there were some people at Ithaca who WANTED to hear Bay Buchanan speak.....that's why I don't understand what you say.....WHO gets to decide, in other words, about who's speech is OK, and who's is not? (Who's speech is right, and who's speech is wrong?)
To: goodnesswins
The right to make the decisions belong to the school administration.
To: nutmeg
Bump
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posted on
04/15/2002 11:13:43 PM PDT
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nutmeg
To: goodnesswins
There was mention in the article that the right of free speech does not apply on a private college. On the thread there was the implication free speech does apply and should be enforced by the courts. I disagree.
To: Fish out of Water
I bet you the student handbook mentions something about "supporting academic freedom". Well, that would be engaging in false advertising.
To: stands2reason
I might buy that idea.
To: IthacaRepublicans
Office of Student Affairs and Campus Life?
Hey Ithaca, eat more mosquitos!
I'm glad I left the dump you made...........
To: RIGHT IN SEATTLE
My wife and I suspect that many Ithaca College students are saddled with an inferiority complex, living in the shadow of Cornell, which may explain their abberant behavior.
We think that perhaps the meter maid who gave us a ticket while I was in getting emergency plane tickets home, after my wife came down with a serious case of lobster poisoning, may have been an Ithaca College Grad.
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04/15/2002 11:56:53 PM PDT
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mvpel
To: goodnesswins
GAYPRIL!!??
I don't want to know!
To: mvpel
I drove through Ithaca-----------1X, and only 1X
I'm from Rochester,-------now living in Las Vegas (0% state income tx.).
Your wife ate lobster in Ithaca?
How did you talk her into it?
To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Why "there is heightened risk of violence against the LGB community." in "Gaypril", I have no idea. The "LGB community" has been hard at work heightening it. Too bad nobody else knows about it.
The Roman emperor Nero renamed the month of April to " Neroneus".
That didn't catch on, either.
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posted on
04/16/2002 1:14:43 AM PDT
by
Salman
To: goodnesswins
What the heck is "Gaypril?"
I think it's the anti-inflammatory I take for carpal-tunnel syndrome.
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posted on
04/16/2002 1:19:51 AM PDT
by
Xenalyte
To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Why "there is heightened risk of violence against the LGB community." in "Gaypril", I have no idea.
Maybe because it's the cruelest month. (I heard that in an English class once.)
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04/16/2002 1:21:04 AM PDT
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Xenalyte
To: mvpel
My wife and I suspect that many Ithaca College students are saddled with an inferiority complex, living in the shadow of Cornell, which may explain their abberant behavior Yup.
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04/16/2002 1:27:40 AM PDT
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SkyPilot
To: Xenalyte
Maybe because it's the cruelest month.funny thing, used that same quote tonight in another context. Can't go wrong quoting Chaucer, especially in April.
To: IthacaRepublicans;goodnesswins; *Academia list; Fish out of Water; krogers58; nutmeg...
To: IthacaRepublicans
WELCOME TO FR and God bless you folks!
I guess the folks at IC are trying to out-dumb the Reds at Cornell!
To: NativeNewYorker
It looks like IC is trying it's hardest to out left the rest of the liberal armpits in the country. It's a clear case of Berkley envy.
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