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Armed man takes hostages in Amsterdam office
PA ^ | Last updated: 11-03-02, 11:51

Posted on 03/11/2002 4:04:26 AM PST by maquiladora

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To: knighthawk
I was told as a youngster this sort of thing could happen if you watch too much tv.
21 posted on 03/11/2002 12:46:46 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Catspaw
1. Thanks for the concern! I live in Limburg, it's the other side of the Netherlands.

2. Yes, he wanted to 'make a statement'.

From the NOS:

Amsterdam - after almost 7 hours the hostage situation in the Rembrandttower (near the Amstel train-station), Amsterdam came to an end. The 59 years old perpetrator has shot himself twice (!) in the head in the toilet. He later died because of these wounds. None of the hastages were hurt.

On about half ten the man from Uithoorn made his way into the tower and took 18 people as hostage. He threathened with a bomb. The actions was aimed at Philips and other widescreen-TV maufacturers, who, according to him, force people to buy a widescreen-TV.

During the action the Amstelstation was evacuated. Police suspected explosives there. At 18.45 the station was opened to the public again.

The man protested against the sale of a bad widescreen TV of the brand Philips. Philips was located in the tower a half year ago.

From 'Algemeen Dagblad': the man had a machine-gun from Heckler&Koch (I think it would be an MP-5, note that all full-automatic weapons are forbidden here), a handgun with ammo and an unknown explosive.

The guy also posted a letter in the 'Algemeen Dagblad', where he complained about the black areas on his TV screen. "Why do I have to suffer for a few widescreen-TV viewers." Signed with his initials 'J.W.R.'

22 posted on 03/11/2002 12:51:35 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: seamole
Look at post #22
23 posted on 03/11/2002 12:52:13 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
Do you have got a widescreen-TV? Then you are safe, as it seems. Only people watching non-widescreen-TV's are affected by this. Uhoh, as a matter of fact, I am watching a non-widescreen-TV at this moment...
24 posted on 03/11/2002 12:56:19 PM PST by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Guess i better look for another tv!
25 posted on 03/11/2002 1:24:34 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: July 4th
* Voice of the people, 120,000 Policemen kill more honest citizens than 2,500,000 Citizens with CCW every year*

* *

Liberal bias newspapers commit a First Amendment felony crime on the Second Amendment by not telling all the story.

Citizens in 42 states “Do not fear Gun Owners who conceal (CCW).” To Tribune readers you make the call.

In 1986 only eight (8) states allowed citizens to CCW and crime was on the rise. In the year 2001, 42 states now have CCW laws on the books and crime continues to drop. Researchers to the self-defense issue, has noticed crime begin dropping immediately after enactment in each state and showed up four - five years before the Brady law. GG’ers don’t want you to know this. This is not CCW media spin; the criminal does not want to get shot. Our Indiana neighbor has issued 350,000 CCW permits and zero (0) has been revolted for a firearms homicide.

In the last twenty years Chief of Police in converting CCW states were pleasantly surprised to find the quality of CCW application is a mature (35-65 yr old) solid citizen, enduring extensive required firearm safely training and training how to avoid a showdown with a criminal and as a group commit less crime than even Policemen.

There are 21 times more (est. 2,500,000) CCW owners than street policeman (120,000) in the United States. Policemen killed 330 innocent citizens in 1996 and CCW’ers (30). Statistically you are 300 times more likely to be innocently shot by a policeman than a CCW owner. Another way to measure it. Every time you see a policemen in a CCW state you have rubbed elbows with up to 21 CCW’ers. Sidebar: 700,000 Doctors kill by mistake 90,000 people annually in our nation. Our hearts should go out to each and every family and our heads need to be crystal clear on this issue.

Women are the fastest growing group of gun owners in the United States. “Dial 911 and Die” is real with 911 response times from 5 to 30 minutes. What logic would the Chicago Tribune tell a woman to use to “talk down” the rapist with AIDS or HIV or STD? 10 minutes is a long time. Get your watch and start talking. Do gun grabbers honestly think the rapist will use a condom? Women should be outraged at the gun grabbers for forcing such defenseless thinking.

Who really needs CCW? The Handicap, wheelchair bound, the elderly, mothers, and daughters, the poor.

Question to the Tribune reader? Why do you think, judges, probation officers, bail bondman, attorneys and social workers are given the right to CCW in Chicago or carry illegally? If you ask they will tell you, they are dealing bad guys everyday and know the mindset of these early release felons. 3.7 million early release prison felons (prison over crowding) out on probation. Where do these felons live? In your neighborhood.

Bad guys will always have guns. It is dumb and dumber to believe America is safe by taking away firearms from honest American Citizens. Anti gun groups in Chicagoland are doing just the opposite are providing “gun free zones” for criminals.

Most all State Statues are written to protect the general public not the individual. It is the individual’s responsibility to protect themselves and their families at home and away from home.

It is a myth that CCW owners kill cops, or citizens with road rage. In the United States over the last twenty years only two (2) known road rage shootings have occurred. Believe me if Road Rage shootings were a problem, the gun grabbers, and miss informed politicians would let us know. After an car accident in TX, the driver begins to punch the man in the face, breaking his eye socket, nose. Profusely bleeding from the face, the 65 yr old driver pulled his gun and shot the road raged driver saving his life.

· My personal thoughts: Every solid citizen who elects to CCW will carry a tremendous burden. This burden is to stay legal, or be charged with a felony or at least a grand jury indictment, should they ever break one of 25,000 gun laws or kill an attacking criminal.

· Jesus in the Bible was smart enough to cast blame on Cain for killing Abel, not blame the stone. Those who believe the “GG” fear spinners need to wake up.

· One final closing thought, Christian religions and other religions teach the need to protect ones self. Jesus said in Luke 22:36 30 He that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. The sword was the finest weapon outside of the home of its time, far better than rocks, clubs, and stones.

* Women who defend their sons daughters and husbands *(700k file)

http://www.sas-aim.org/home.htm

*Keep and Bear Arms *

http://www.keepandbeararms.com

* Facts and Figures ver3.1 *(700k file)

http://home.attbi.com/~guys/guns.html

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27 posted on 03/11/2002 3:13:06 PM PST by CHICAGOFARMER
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