NRA Political Doublecross-AGAIN!

Second Amendment Sisters ^ | 03/06/02 | Faith Hartzell

[Copernicus]

It is really time for a change of command in the Executive Suite at the NRA.

They brought us the mess known as the Brady Bill and this tale is consistent with the shenanighans they pull in my neck of the woods.

[Copernicus]

For your consideration,

Best regards,

[Twodees]

The NRA is now and always has been the biggest guncontrol lobbying organization in the US. The NRA has endorsed every single major guncontrol act since the 1934 FFA. You can't polish a turd.

[RFP]

There's gotta be something else to this. Your comments?

[Rustynailww]

amen.

[pocat]

This is a similar situation that occured during the 2000 Congressional race between incumbent Democrat Ken Lucas and Republican Don Bell here in KY.

The NRA virtually ignored Lucas' anti-gun past and gave him the endorsement, while Bell had a solid pro-gun record.

[Shooter 2.5]

" They told me that they knew that Bob Doyle was being assisted in obtaining the NRA's endorsement by state Senator Ray Haynes and Paul Peter Payne, who is described as executive assistant to Mr. LaPierre. I have been told by these members that they knew that Doyle had met with Ed Worley."

The article doesn't say who won the election. It also describes another candidate that was endorsed by a state senator while still having an "A" rating. The last bit of information that has to be mentioned that I personally know a Constable that has been office for years and he is not a member of the NRA. He states that he doesn't want to give his political enemies the impression that he's an extremist by being a member. However, he is a staunch defender of the Second Amendment and if someone needs to be signed off for a Class III machine gun license he's the person to see. This article reads like the NRA supported an "A" rated candidate who has a chance of winning. I wonder why he didn't just get his money from the GOA if they're so powerful.

[Shooter 2.5]

"You can't polish a turd."

And you sound like you're using divide and conquor tactics to destroy the NRA. Why didn't he get an endorsment or money from the GOA if he was such a good candidate? A better question is, who won the election?

[Twodees]

Really? I'm destroying the NRA? I had no idea I was such a big deal. What I'm doing is pointing out the undisputable fact that the NRA has endorsed every single major guncontrol act by Congress since they endorsed the first and worst, the 1934 congressional violation of the 2nd amendment.

The NRA was formed by GAR members during the days when the GAR was a potent political force. The GAR was a bastion of political corruption and radical republican politics during the Grant administration. Not much good can be said about the GAR while keeping a straight face.

Apparently, who won the election was the candidate who got the NRA endorsement though he isn't a member. What do you think the issue is besides that?

[Shooter 2.5]

Gee, nothing like going back over a hundred and twenty five years to whine and complain. When the '34 tax was implimented the NRA was a shooting organization and not political. I noticed that the person complaining was asking for money from the NRA. Why didn't he go to the GOA? As far as I'm concerned, the better candidate won instead of a guy who had his hand out.

[Shooter 2.5]

By the way, the NRA does not endorse any anti-gun legislation. They may have to compromise to get something better but they didn't endorse the '34 Bill, the '68 Bill or the Brady Bill, which makes you a liar.

[donozark]

GAR did not reach it's political zenith until 1890 when it had 450K members. It was close to collapse in early 1870s. It's last living members (6) closed it down in 1949.

The Union officers that started the NRA did so to improve the markmenship of the military. Basically, they were sick and tired of seeing their brethern being gunned down by superior riflemen, as happened in the Civil War. NRA is thus, the first civil rights org.

[zip]

Maybe he's a liar, but he accomplished what he wanted. That is agitating and getting us to use up precious bandwidth.

[Dan from Michigan]

Is the sheriff an incumbent. The NRA backs incumbents if they are solid on the gun issue.

[Dan from Michigan]

I personally would have backed Bell if nothing else, for organazational reasons(IE Lucas votes for Conyors for Judiciary committee), but Lucas DOES have a solid record at least in Congress on the gun issue, and he's the incumbent. The NRA ALWAYS backs incumbents unless they screw up.

As a conservative, I don't always like it, but I understand it, and that is generally MCRGO's policy as well, although we aren't as nice on endorsements as the NRA.

[Dan from Michigan]

If it wasn't for the NRA, you wouldn't have any guns left.

[o_zarkman44]

I guess the people have the need to be better informed of the issues and the candidates, rather than relying on who endorses who for election. I can't believe the NRA officially sanctioned a non member. Perhaps there is more to the story than we are being told?

[Dan from Michigan]

I don't know the whole story here. I THINK it was a similar case to Simon vs Jones, and that the incumbent gets the nod.

[Shooter 2.5]

Also the politician with the proven track record gets the nod. That was the main reason Simon didn't get an A+ or the endorsment.

[Dan from Michigan]

If the non member has a pro-2a record, then I see it.

Anyone can be a member. George HW Bush, an Anti-gunner, was a life member...he joined in 1988. Bill Klinton claimed to be a member. Carl Lenin was a member.

Saying you are a member of NRA or MCRGO doesn't do much to get my vote. Going to gunshows and campaigning, speaking at our meetings, and going public with support does a better job for it. A record on the issue is most important.