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Did Humans And Neanderthals Battle For Control Of The Middle East?
National Geographic ^ | 3-8-2002 | Ben Harder

Posted on 03/08/2002 3:33:16 PM PST by blam

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To: blam
I believe these guys see conflict and violence between these two groups which is not supported by the data. If they were assimilating you would expect to see the same thing uncovered here. Why do they do this?

ummm...to sell magazines by superimposing what may be modern circumstances and emotion of conflict and sympathy or hatred?

And somehow through association applying the visuals of Neanderthals and humans to the present inhabitants?

41 posted on 03/08/2002 9:35:54 PM PST by d4now
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To: blam
Did Neanderthals all go to heaven?:^)
42 posted on 03/08/2002 9:38:32 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: blam
I believe these guys see conflict and violence between these two groups which is not supported by the data. If they were assimilating you would expect to see the same thing uncovered here. Why do they do this?

Hey that's independent thought. You're not suppose to question what scientists tell you. If you don't stop, you will end up considering alternative explanations for the evidence. Only right wing extremists do that. /sarcasm

43 posted on 03/08/2002 9:43:59 PM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: ValenB4
Does this mean there has to be the establishment of a Neanderthal state?

Yes, and their ancient territory was the land around Mecca.

44 posted on 03/08/2002 9:44:26 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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To: blam
I wanna know if they've ever solved the mystery of how Fred Flintstone was able to go around corners in that car with the two steamroller wheels.
45 posted on 03/08/2002 9:52:44 PM PST by uglybiker
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To: uglybiker
Front and rear differentials.
46 posted on 03/08/2002 11:08:53 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: doug from upland
How dense could the population be at that time?

Some of them could be VERY dense.

Oh- You were talking about population numbers, weren't you? Sorry, my bad!

47 posted on 03/09/2002 12:33:06 AM PST by exDemMom
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To: exDemMom
Why are you an ex-Dem? What made you leave the dark side? Have friends joined you?
48 posted on 03/09/2002 8:01:51 AM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
My goodness, how to answer?

Not to go into much detail, but a lot of my childhood was spent in poverty, with my family receiving some kind of gov. assistance. I was raised with the typical attitudes of the desperately poor: our situation is not our fault, it is the fault of the rich who keep stealing from us; the rich, of course, are evil, mean, conservatives who, if we stupidly elect them, will take away even the pittance we have; the liberal Democrats really care for us and understand how horrid the rich conservatives are, and they'll make sure we're taken care of, etc. I believed that if I put my faith in the government, my life would get better. Except that I didn't see the government actually providing anything except promises, and no one lives well on the dole. I desperately wanted out of poverty, and gradually, I came to realize that the liberal attitudes of the poor (which are different than the liberal attitudes of the rich) weren't going to get me there. Plus, I joined the Navy, which tends, by its nature, to be crawling with conservatives, and I gradually came to see that "those people" were not the evil brutes I had always been taught they were. Add to that my observations during the 80's, that liberals engage in a lot of fear-mongering (one example: Reagan was just waiting for the slightest excuse to set off WWIII) that ultimately proves false, every time, and I lost my faith in liberalism. Also, there is the liberal's single-minded devotion to "abortion rights," which really contradicted everything they claimed about being compassionate (by my thinking, the conservatives should have been pro-abortion, since they were, as I had been taught, evil and heartless). The last straw, for me, was when the Dems nominated Klintoon in 1992. Everything about him struck me wrong; I've had a very miserable experience with a man extremely like Klintoon, and I knew he would be very bad for the country. So I went and changed my voter registration to Republican, and here I am, today.

Since the journey to the right side was very long and involved a lot of self-reflection, no, no one came with me. I was always a skeptical, deeply thinking person; I have a feeling that without that trait, I'd still cling to the liberal "values" I was raised with.

Sorry for the long answer!

49 posted on 03/09/2002 11:47:23 AM PST by exDemMom
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To: blam
This is just another know-nothing article written for popular consumption. What the article conveniently forgets is that the first waves of "humans" were not homo sapiens. Only the last one was. In addition, there is lots of evidence that homo sapiens and Neanderthals lived together in neighboring areas for thousands of years. The reasons for their dissappearance are totally unknown and the findings reported here do not add in any way to a solution to the question.
50 posted on 03/10/2002 4:36:48 AM PST by gore3000
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To: gonzo
The Neandertals were human beings, just a slightly different species from Cro-Magnun man

There was a thread a year or so ago,
claiming the Neandertals interbred with Cro-Magnum.
The claim was made that red hair is one of the Neandertal traits,
as in Irish, and Scotish type redheads.
(Really hard to think of Ann Margaret as a Neandertal.)

If they did in fact interbreed, than they are the same species.

51 posted on 03/11/2002 6:12:37 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: Eternal_Bear
No
52 posted on 03/11/2002 6:15:15 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: blam
If they were assimilating then one would expect to find composite remains not exclusive deposits of one kind or the other.
53 posted on 03/11/2002 6:28:01 AM PST by RWG
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To: blam
Why do they do this?

Don't be coy -- we've had this discussion before. They do it for publicity, to better establish their academic "reputations" and to sell whatever books they've written. National Geographic is a joke. It peddles whatever pseudo-scientific line is trendy at any given moment. Great pictures, though!

54 posted on 03/11/2002 6:57:20 AM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: ASA Vet
Its hard to believe any of the crap spewed forth from the so called Archeoligists. There is scant evidence for anything they conjecture. So called climate changes? Moved people from Africa? This stuff is fiction and the poor dolts that believe this stuff are pathectic at best!
55 posted on 03/11/2002 7:09:39 AM PST by claptrap
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To: xm177e2
"And some people think they still are"......Amen Bro. You have careened head on into the truth!
56 posted on 03/11/2002 7:57:15 AM PST by BnBlFlag
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To: claptrap
Archeoligists = Archaeologists
pathectic = pathetic

When referring to others as poor dolts it's a good idea to check your own spelling. ;-)

57 posted on 03/11/2002 8:29:17 AM PST by ASA Vet
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To: ASA Vet
Redheads Are Neanderthals
58 posted on 03/11/2002 11:52:22 AM PST by blam
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To: blam
The Art Of Being A Redhead
59 posted on 03/11/2002 11:57:56 AM PST by blam
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To: exDemMom
Good story.

BTW it is better to be an exDemMom than an exMomDem :(

60 posted on 03/11/2002 12:27:34 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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