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U.S. Deports Dozens of Israelis Amid Warnings of Espionage Activities
DrudgeReport- AP ^ | 00/05/02

Posted on 03/05/2002 2:27:35 PM PST by jmp702

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To: Tarakotchi
What can I tell you more? If they were "Israelis," they must have been Arabs (there are about 1 million who are Israeli citizens and they do travel, you know). These are the same people who celebrated the destruction of the WTC in Isralel, too; so I would not be surprised.

There are no Isrelie Jews who would have any sensibiltiy to rejoice at a site of a tragedy --- even if it is inflicted on the enemy. Just ask yourself, when was the last time you saw videotapes of crowds of Israeli Jews cheering at bloodshed?

Needless to say, they would not do that when a wound is inflicted on the friend, the U.S.

The implications you make are far reaching; it appears that this is the picture you WANT to see: that Israli Jews have somehow rejoiced in our tragedy. THere are crazy peiople who, following the Arab propaganda, insist that Mosad did it. If you are one of them, I do not want to waste my time.

I am sory to say, it is ridiculous to assume that, all of a sudden, in this particular isntance, Israeli Jews would behave so out of character. It well may be that, among other Arabs in New Jewsey, there were those visiting them from Israel.

221 posted on 03/07/2002 9:57:36 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: SauronOfMordor
Latest reports indicate that the "report" was a memo from one DEA officer who is disgruntled because it was dismissed by the FBI, and leaked it himself. Veronica linked to the story above. Hardly sounds as though the full expertise of the DEA had been brought to bear.

The "facts" you cite were from this report, which sounds less and less significant the more actual reporting is done about it - as distinguished from Le Monde anti-Israel agitprop.

Sorry, but you haven't got the smoking gun on the Jews yet. The wings is flappin' but the bird is still on the ground. Don't be sad - surely the Elders will slip up someday.

222 posted on 03/07/2002 5:39:51 PM PST by Southern Federalist
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223 posted on 03/07/2002 5:41:36 PM PST by grammymoon
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To: veronica;SauronOfMordor;Southern Federalist
From veronica's post 210 link Reports of Israeli Spy Ring Dismissed:

"DEA spokesman Thomas Hinojosa said that multiple reports of suspicious activity on the part of young Israelis had come into the agency's Washington headquarters from agents in the field. The reports were summarized in a draft memo last year, but Hinojosa said he did not have a copy and could not vouch for the accuracy of media reports describing its contents."

Well, never mind the media reports, here's an official Office of the National CounterIntelligence Executive government memo from March, 2001:

http://www.ncix.gov/news/2001/mar01.html#a1

Suspicious Visitors to Federal Facilities

In the past six weeks, employees in federal office buildings located throughout the United States have reported suspicious activities connected with individuals representing themselves as foreign students selling or delivering artwork. Employees have observed both males and females attempting to bypass facility security and enter federal buildings.

If challenged, the individuals state that they are delivering artwork from a studio in Miami, Florida, called Universal Art, Inc, or that they are art students and are looking for opinions regarding their work. These individuals have been described as aggressive. They attempt to engage employees in conversation rather than giving a sales pitch.

Federal police officers have arrested two of these individuals for trespassing and discovered that the suspects possessed counterfeit work visas and green cards. These individuals have also gone to the private residences of senior federal officials under the guise of selling art.

Other reporting indicates that there may be two groups involved, and they refer to themselves as "Israeli art students." One group has an apparently legitimate money- making goal while the second, perhaps a non-Israeli group, may have ties to a Middle Eastern Islamic fundamentalist group.

Federal employees observing any activity similar to that described above should report their observations to appropriate security officials.

225 posted on 03/07/2002 10:46:30 PM PST by Tarakotchi
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To: TopQuark
"it appears that this is the picture you WANT to see: that Israli Jews have somehow rejoiced in our tragedy."

No, I was shocked to read these initial reports, not in the Arab press but our own small-town newspapers.

226 posted on 03/07/2002 11:29:51 PM PST by Tarakotchi
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To: ratcat
As for the info concerning PROMIS, I have read dozens of other articles concerning this subject prior to reading Thomas's book and the book sourced many of these previous articles and provided some additional detail.

So have I. Now, the reason PROMIS was once powerful would be that no one looked into it. The moment you actually look at an attack like this, it falls apart - or you're not doing your job. PROMIS was outed years ago, and was in everyone's hands years ago. In fact, I could very probably grab a copy if I really went looking - and grab it legally, at that.

If it still had any significance it would mean that people were still using it knowing it represented an open door, and doing that is squarely your own responsibility.

Anyway, you seem to be saying that this book's cite of the HP project as a "time portal" is correct, but that the whole thing may be a lie from the feds. I have a much more probable theory for you: this author is a fraud - if it wasn't for the fact that he seems to also have published this book under the heading of "fiction". Which makes citing it as "documentation" something a bit less than truthful.

227 posted on 03/08/2002 5:15:39 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Tarakotchi
No, I was shocked to read these initial reports, not in the Arab press but our own small-town newspapers. As I said, you would not have been shocked had you not jumpted to coclusions and read between the lines what you wanted to see.

G'd day.

228 posted on 03/08/2002 6:49:24 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: DrLiberty
I had to go to a private school 2 hours from my home to avoid being beaten up routinely for being white and a "haole". The last day of the school year is kindly referred to by locals as "kill haole" day.

Ah. The Hawaiians are routinely beating up non-Hawaians and organizing "kill the whites days"? Anyone here who can verify this story?

You didn't answer me, "doctor". Are you one of the critters who sit around Polinco or OD bleating about the white man's burden(s)? One of the little spitballs regurgitated by SamFran for fear of that boards potential legal problems?

229 posted on 03/08/2002 10:45:30 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
Try 'kill haole' on Google,

first hit:

Rath suggested that "kill haole day" is a long-standing tradition in some schools and unless the state is able to completely eliminate "kill haole day," it would open the state up to liability.

230 posted on 03/08/2002 12:24:44 PM PST by Tarakotchi
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To: Tarakotchi
Try 'kill haole' on Google

Well, I'll be darned. This is obviously a serious problem, and it's good to see the Hawaiians taking it seriously:

Rep. Jim Rath (R, Kona) questioned advocates of the bill (Senate Bill 605, SD1) about a provision that would allow lawsuits for acts of violence, threats, intimidation or harassment based on race and other factors.

Now just let's get the same kind of legislation - or stronger - and apply vigorously against the swastika corner, the mohammedan pit and other dens of iniquity :). Ah, the squeals of imprisoned nazis in the morning... :)).

After all, it's a shame to let spare capacity at gitmo unused.

231 posted on 03/08/2002 3:20:01 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
"Ah. The Hawaiians are routinely beating up non-Hawaians and organizing "kill the whites days"? Anyone here who can verify this story?"

"Well, I'll be darned. This is obviously a serious problem, and it's good to see the Hawaiians taking it seriously:"

Don't be all in a rush to apologize anytime soon. BTW, I no longer live in Hawaii. I now live in California, but I'm sure I will have to move soon as the demographics spiral out of control and our pathetic government allows Mexico to reclaim Aztlan.

232 posted on 03/08/2002 3:36:04 PM PST by DrLiberty
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To: Tarakotchi
Here are some more answers --- if your mind is still open, thas is: click here.
233 posted on 03/11/2002 4:32:04 PM PST by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
I read that editorial already, thanks. I don't think the Office of the National CounterIntelligence Executive (post 225), for example, were fantasizing.
234 posted on 03/12/2002 9:22:53 AM PST by Tarakotchi
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