Sniper Kills 10 More Israelis

Las Vegas Sun ^ | 3 March, 2001

[Brad’s Gramma]

Freepmail....

[MissAmericanPie]

Oh my gosh, I guess this means Israel needs to pull back or maybe get really mean and upset and bomb an empty building. That'll show em.

[DentsRun]

The U.S. is largely responsible for holding the Israelis back. They have not yet loosened the ropes.

Don't blame the United States. Sharon recently said that Colin Powell had just told him in a phone conversation that the U.S. understands and fully supports Israel's need to defend itself. Sharon's problem is that his support among the Israeli public is slipping dramatically. The Likud wants him to drive the Palestinians back across the Jordan. But if he does Labor will pull out of his coaltion, the government will fall and he'll have to call for new elections, which, if the polls are any indication, he'll easily lose to Netanyahu. So to stay in power, Sharon does enough to satisfy the right wingers but not so much as to offend the left. It's not much of a policy and it prevents him from taking any bold action to settle this once and for all (including taking risks for peace).

Sharon's only hope (I've said this before) is for the U.S. to attack Iraq. Saddam will retaliate by firing SCUDS at Israel. The Palestinians will go wild with joy and stage massive attacks on Israelis. Sharon will send in the IDF, ostensibly to stop the violence but actually to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza and the West Bank at a time when the eyes of the rest of the world are on the U.S. war with Iraq.

But Sharon can't do anything till the U.S. attacks Iraq. That's why he's so frustrated. He won't have the moral capital to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians till the U.S. attacks Iraq and Saddam in turn attacks Israel. In the meantime, he just has to sit there and take it.

[Cold Heat]

Interesting! You give me food for thought. This kinda stuff is way over my international relations pay grade. However, the U.S. stopped them before. We got our friggin lightweights over here too. See what Dashole is doing? Makes my head hurt thinking about it.

[dennisw]

likely that sniper wasn't palestinian but rather some guy right off the boat from afghanistan

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This could well be. Israelis should have taken cover. Very stupid what they did to charge up the hill after him. This won't happen again.

[American in Israel]

Ben-Eliezer answered: "It's an easy question. We thought that they would behave themselves."

[Jeremiah Jr]

And I keep reading and hearing from friends that the CIA trained them.

Psalm 137:8

[American in Israel]

Hmmm, I oops'd it. This one should work.

Link to sniper article

CIA Trained PA Snipers With Israeli Knowledge

(DFJ-Sep/Oct '01) Israeli Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer acknowledged on July 1, 2001, that the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (C.I.A.) trained PLO death squads in the United States with the approval of the Barak Government and Mr. Shimon Peres, currently Foreign Minister in the Sharon Government and formerly Minister of Regional Cooperation in the Barak Government.

Ben-Eliezer was asked by a reporter if 40 Palestinian Police sent to the US for advanced CIA sniper, marksmanship and advanced weapons training, with Israeli knowledge and permission, are now using this skill to inflict harm on Israelis and Palestinian "collaborators."

Ben-Eliezer answered: "It's an easy question. We thought that they would behave themselves."

[anapikoros]

The OSLO accords enabled the setting up of a Palestinian "police" force of 18000. Arafat covertly increased the number to over 40,000 and trained them as an army. The CIA trained and equiped a number of Palestinian policeman as snipers to enable them to deal with the terrorists. These same policeman by day join the terrorists at night tp practice their craft.

[anapikoros]

CIA Trained PA Snipers With Israeli Knowledge

(DFJ-Sep/Oct '01) Israeli Defense Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer acknowledged on July 1, 2001, that the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (C.I.A.) trained PLO death squads in the United States with the approval of the Barak Government and Mr. Shimon Peres, currently Foreign Minister in the Sharon Government and formerly Minister of Regional Cooperation in the Barak Government.

Ben-Eliezer was asked by a reporter if 40 Palestinian Police sent to the US for advanced CIA sniper, marksmanship and advanced weapons training, with Israeli knowledge and permission, are now using this skill to inflict harm on Israelis and Palestinian "collaborators."

Ben-Eliezer answered: "It's an easy question. We thought that they would behave themselves."

Reference: "Israel Defense Minister Ben-Eliezer acknowledges CIA trained PLO Death Squads with Shimon Peres’ Approval" questions by Aryeh Gallin at Foreign Press Association conference 7/1/01

[anapikoros]

Keep in mind these 10 dead in proportion to total population would be 200 dead in the US

Israel's Jewish population approx 5 million.

USA population (mid 2001) 285 million

Israel:US = 1:57, 10 Israeli deaths = 570 in US.

Since this intifada started over 230 Israelis killed, equivalent to over 13,000 in US. That's how many Sept 11's?

[anapikoros]

Average sniper is quite effective in the 600 meter range. Good snipers to 800 and the stars out to 1000+. So 300 is probably easy shooting for a marksman let alone a sniper.

from http://www.vpc.org/studies/sniper.htm "The longest confirmed sniper kill of the Gulf War was reported to have been made by a Barrett Model 82A1 sniper rifle at a range of 1,800 meters—nearly 2,000 yards, or almost 10 times a deer hunter's maximum effective range. Numerous engagements with large, 50 caliber guns during the war took place at 1,600 meters (about 1,750 yards). From the West Front of the U.S. Capitol, this range would allow accurate firing as far as the Smithsonian Metro station on the Mall. "

[Illbay]

They're little children. They are doing what their parents tell them to do. The evil is in the parents not in these children.

[kickme]

(LOL)I've noticed. Once they kill everyone there will be peace through Islam.

[rdb3]

EU will cry foul.

If Israel decides to blow its nose the EU will cry foul. Their opinion just doesn't matter to me anymore. I pity effeminate socialists.

[Aquamarine]

Give the Truth a break? Not me, never.

Pro 1:22 How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?

[willyone]

Large cajones to shoot children? Too bad someone doesn't step on yours punk.

[willyone]

And GW wants to legalize and encourage millions more to come. Before the fat lady sings those cheap workers and Dem. voters are going to prove very expensive. Very expensive.

[ScholarWarrior]

When we contemplate our military actions, we should remember the simple philosophy:

W.W.G.L.D?

What would General LeMay do?

[wcbtinman]

I agree with your assesment. As an aside, I've got 2 "store bought" rifles in .308 that are this capable. The problem is with the shooter and the lack of time to practice, practice, practise. I've also got an old Russian M44 with a hundred dollar scope and a modern stock that will shoot almost this good.