Posted on 02/22/2002 8:38:59 PM PST by Timesink
Um, Joe, I don't mean any disrespect here, but that's not true. Even after 9/11, you have been able to clear security with a printed copy of an itinerary. I have done it repeatedly since 9/11, and I am a top-level frequent flyer on two major US airlines.
"If the airline is not enforcing that rule...they should be."
That's not a rule. It never was. You have to show boarding passes OR a printed itinerary.
"When you reach your designated gate you are required to secure a boarding pass."
No. You're not. In fact, if you use Delta's Virtual Check-In (gotta be one of their most frequent flyers to take advantage of that), you won't even get a boarding pass. I am sitting in Delta's Crown Room Club in Cincinnati as I write this, and I didn't have to have a boarding pass to get on the plane. I put my frequent flyer card under a laser scanner, and Delta knows who I am. Presto, I show a picture ID and I'm allowed on board. That went away for a while after 9/11, but the FAA has allowed Delta to do it again since December.
"Scooter in the article may, very well, be an aviation consultant. But he sure doesn't know the present rules."
B747 (Sean Mendis) is, in fact, an aviation consultant, and he is extremely conversant with the rules. Not to be confrontational, Joe, but it appears that you're the one who doesn't know them. I've never met him, but I've never known him to be wrong before.
"Had he gone to the ticket counter and secured his, previously ordered, ticket he would have had no problem."
I disagree.
"Concerning the tip jar....I have seen a number of them at Bradley....Logan...and Midway...and put a business card in each...(I hope to win a free lunch)..."
Seen any cash in any of them? Lottery-type card draws aren't the issue here. Tip jars are.
"On a side note, I fly atleast once a week and STILL have yet to notice any significant changes compared to pre-9/11 both domestically, and internationally..."
I fly as much as 7 or 8 times a week, and I agree. But you are incorrect on some of the things you're saying, Joe.
I appreciate your response, Joe. That's the whole point I was trying to make, that just exactly what the procedures are will vary widely depending on the airline-airport combination you're traveling with. Your mileage will certainly vary.
I am a United Airlines 1K and a Delta Airlines Platinum Medallion (top level in both programs), and I'd say that in general, Delta is better for the elite traveler in a hurry, although I think United treats me better in flight. In Atlanta and Cincy (both are big Delta hubs), I can go through the express security lines and get to the scanner and inspectors in two minutes or less. I still get the shakedown and government-issued procto exam just like everybody else, but I get to it faster.
Delta's also got some express check-in options I like, too. You can check in online (no more than 4 hours before departure) and then print out your boarding passes at home or at work. Or you can call a 1-800 number to do Virtual Check-In (again, the 4-hour rule applies) and then show a printed itinerary to clear security. Rules on that vary by airport, but Atlanta, Cincy and Washington Dulles (among the many airports I fly into and out of) are okay with it. I like Virtual Check-In because when I get to the gate, I just give my ID and Platinum Medallion card to the agent, they check me against the manifest to be sure I really did check in on the phone, and then they swipe my Delta FF card under a laser scanner. It reads the bar code, and then I'm cleared to board. No boarding pass required. I still get checked out by security like everyone else, but I don't waste hours every week waiting in those gigantic lines. To me, those lines look like Russians waiting to buy bread.
Some airports served by Delta have self-check-in kiosks (they look like ATMs) where you can stick in your frequent flyer card and get your receipt and boarding passes.
All these speedy options have two big limitations. (1) You can't check any bags if you use them. You have to check in with a human to do that. (2) An airport's rules always trump an airline's rules. If BWI says you've got to have a logo on the itinerary, then what they say goes. I never have a problem at Dulles, and my itinerary got me through security real quick yesterday.
I never use BWI myself; that airport seems to be where all the security "enhancements" get tested before they're inflicted on the rest of the country. But I do use Reagan National and Dulles a lot, and I find all these things to be true. Again, your mileage may vary.
I e-mailed this story to him one week ago on 2/23.
As of today (3/02/02) I have received no response.
-CD
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