Abu’s (Sayyaf -AlQaeda/Bin Laden) Long-standing Ties to Global Terrorism Bared (OKC Bombing)

Manila Times ^ | February 15, 2002 | Dorian Zumel Sicat

[OKCSubmariner]

The article's original title was "Abu’s long-standing ties to global terrorism bared "

The Pentagon terror advisor, Jesse Clear told me that the Clinton administration blocked his efforts to get information out of the Phillipines linking Nichols and McVeigh to Abu Sayyaf, Bin Laden's AlQaeda terror organization in the Phillipines.

After his retirement in December of 1995, Clear worked to help defense attorney Stephen Jones. Jones filed a Writ of Mandamus before the Tenth Circuit of Appeals in March 1996 trying to force the government to release information Jones said the US government was hiding about the Phillipine connection. The Tenth Circuit rejected Jones Writ with almost no comment based on national security grounds (cover-up??)

Nichols was supposed to have been in the Phillipines at the same time and at the same airport as airline bombing mastermind Ramzi Youseff who also bombed the WTC in 1993. Youseff even was in a cell nect to McVeigh after the OKC bobming.

Last year former KFORTV reporter Jayna Davis and former OK State Representative Charles Key appeared on the O,Reilly Factor allegijg that Binb Laden's terror orgainizatiuon was involved in the OKC bombing because of the alleged meetings with Nichols and Abu Sayyaf in the Phillipines.

[OKCSubmariner]

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The last paragraph of my comments in reply #1 should read (corrections for typos):

Last year former KFORTV reporter Jayna Davis and former OK State Representative Charles Key appeared on the O'Reilly Factor alleging that Bin Laden's terror organization was involved in the OKC bombing because of the alleged meetings with Nichols and Abu Sayyaf in the Phillipines.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

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[OKCSubmariner]

The link in the heading was incorrectly recorded as www.manilatimes.com.

The correct link is at www.manilatimes.net.

Sorry.

[concerned about politics]

Nichols had married Filipino women but he was a strange ally, being a member of the American ultra-right movement.

He was so far to the right, he circled around into a left wing anarchist. It's the left wing that's proven to be anti-American and muslim sympathetic. I wish they'd get that straight.

All this, and Clinton tried to blame right wing radio. What an idiot.

[OKCSubmariner]

The full link for the article is:

http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2002/feb/15/top_stories/20020215top1.html

[concerned about politics]

The Pentagon terror advisor, Jesse Clear told me that the Clinton administration blocked his efforts to get information out of the Phillipines

He refused to fund it, and told the Philliphines to send them home, and not aid them.
I rember reading about that. I thought that was odd.
If they wanted the truth, I thought, "Why is Clinton doing this?"

[desertcry]

Now it is becoming clear, why President GWB is sending all those SFs to the Philippines. It seems there's a lot more going on in the Philippines than a few terrorist/kidnapers. However, I still think that the main body of the muslim terrorist are in Indonisia, and Malaysia. I hope, that the Philippines will allow us to use the old American bases(Clark, and Subic Bay)there as a staging area to fight the terrorists in Southeast Asia.

[Phil V.]

THANKS - - - marked - - -

[Chapita]

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[Marianne]

But even before that, in 1993, when the Abu Sayyaf was in its infancy, the same group met with Nichols and another American—believed to have been executed Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh—at a Dole labeling plant near General Santos City.
Is that factual? I don't remember reading that McVeigh had visited the Philippines.

[JeepInMazar]

I remember reading some time back that McViegh visited the Philipians, and if I recall correctly, he was in an area that is mostly Muslim. It seemed very strange to me that a guy like him would hang out with Muslims. But now it is beginning to make sense. I must say, if this is all true, the FBI are either a bunch of idiots who need to be educated or a bunch of tyrants who need to be reigned in big time.

[aristeides]

Note the mention of the Nation of Islam in the article.

[Marianne]

But according to the sources, who have requested anonymity, investigations have been reopened, and in silence, about the relationship between neo-nazis, right-wing Christian groups, the Nation of Islam (Black Muslims—NOI), the Abu Sayyaf, and al-Qaida.
I noted the "Nation of Islam", but also noted the "right-wing Christian groups".

[Fred Mertz]

I don't remember that tidbit about McVeigh being there either, Marianne.

[JerseyHighlander]

Would you happen to have some documentation that places McVeigh in the Phillipines? Could you recall the documentation that Nichols was in the Phillipines?

[OKCSubmariner]

In December 1997 Jesse Clear and I personally debriefed the Legal Counsel for the Senate Judicary, Colin Davis, in Senator Grassley's(Iowa,Repub) office about the OKC bombing.

Jesse Clear told Kolin Davis that the FBI had massively covered up the OKC bombing investigation and had improperly intimidated witnesses. Clear worked with FBI agents in the Pentagon and was the Pentagon advisor under William Perry at the time of the OKC bombing. Clear gave me his permission to write a letter to the editor of New American mgazine in 1998 describing the meeting with Kolin Davis and quoting Clear.

Clear made a tape recording of an interview about the OKC bombing Clear had with a counter terrorism FBI agent,Paul Geiger,in July 1996. Clear took the tape to OK Senator James Inhofe's office in 1996. Inhofe did nothing adequate with the tape and the information. Clear met with Inhofe's aide on the Senate Intelligence Committee, Ken Johnson, along with the Committee legal counsel, Joan Grimson in April 1999 to brief them on the OKC bombing and the FBI coverup. Clear told me that Johnson showed up late and showed little if no interest in the information.

Inhofe's chief of staff, Herb Johnson, wrote a letter before his death (heart attack)in 1998 for an attorney close to the investigation, stating that the DOJ and FBI had deliberately covered up the ME connection to the OKC bombing.

I personally discussd this with Inhofe at his home in Tulsa, OK in January 1999. Inhofe's response was to order his staff to ship everything out of his office connected to Clear's tape and my letters to Inhofe (his staff told me no copies were retained by Inhofe's office). The information was sent (according to what Inhof'es staff told me) to the Senate Intelligence Committee who to this day has along with the Senate Judicary Committee done nothing adequate with Clear's and my information.

Late last year, US News and World Report in its Washington Whisper's column, stated that top Pentagon officials (where Clear worked) found out that McVeigh was an Iraqi agent and that the Pentagon believed that the FBI had lied to the Pentagon about the Iraqi connection.

At the time, the author, Paul Bedard, told me that the original source of his information came out of the Assistant Secretary of Defense office for Paul Wolfowitz. Since that time, Bedard has denied telling me the part about Wolfowitz but Bedard has stuck to his story about top Pentagon officals claiming the FBI had lied to the Pentagon and that McVeigh worked for the Iraqis.