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Cover Up:Senate-House Investigation of Intelligence Failure led by Tenet's Long-time Subordinate
Center for Security Policy ^ | 2002-02-13 | Center for Security Policy

Posted on 02/15/2002 7:22:05 AM PST by Plummz

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To: honway
Thanks for the good link to the Toronto Star article. That cures that detail.
21 posted on 02/15/2002 4:20:02 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: Eva
I respectfully disagree. American citizens are being mauled and robbed at airports by non-citizens in the name of "security"; we have people clamoring for national IDs; we've had a law passed that nukes our Fourth Amendment Rights; we have police watching us with cameras, all because of 9/11.

We have EVERY right to know who screwed up and why. Furthermore, I don't trust any of these clowns to round up terrorists. Notice how we've expelled all illegals after 9/11 ....NOT!! Au contraire, we have the Prez clamoring to make illegals legal, and our borders are as porous as ever.

22 posted on 02/15/2002 4:30:53 PM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: honway
From the Toronto Star article ---

"The man telling the tale in sworn court affidavits is Delmart Edward Vreeland, who faces credit fraud charges in Canada and in the United States, where officials are attempting to extradite him."

Why would "officials" be attempting to extradict him if Canada is going to try him on the same allegations? The U.S. could file for extradition anytime after/during  the "trial", couldn't they?

"In his affidavit, he says he tried to warn Canadian intelligence about possible terrorist attacks on New York and the Pentagon, along with targets in Ottawa and Toronto, but was written off as a petty criminal. So he wrote the warning on a piece of paper, sealed it in an envelope, and handed it to jail guards a month before the attacks. They opened the letter Sept. 14 and immediately forwarded the information to Ottawa."

It would seem that's very easy to verify. It's stated as fact that the guards forwarded it to Ottawa after holding it for a month and then reading it.

23 posted on 02/15/2002 4:38:56 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: OKCSubmariner
On the mornimg of 9-11-01 as I sat in the EOC, my co-workers turned to me and asked, What do you think ?" I replied , Today you've seen the greatest Itell failure since the 'suprise attack' on Pearl Harbor. Heads should roll at the CIA,FBI,NSA etc. but don't hold your breath. I hate being a prophet.
24 posted on 02/15/2002 5:16:55 PM PST by lawdog
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To: Plummz
Another reason Tenete has to go - along with his assistant.
25 posted on 02/15/2002 5:26:48 PM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Eva
Of course, the CIA and the FBI need a complete review and over-haul, but not now, not in public. We need to depend on the credibility of the CIA and FBI to prosecute terrorists. If we start to undermine the credibility of these agencies, we will be udermining the case against terrorism.

So we postpone fixing the deficiencies in order to artificially maintain public credibility?

The popular illusion is more important than the functional reality?

26 posted on 02/15/2002 5:46:22 PM PST by mindprism.com
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To: Black Jade
I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek about FR and how "uncomfortable" stories sometimes disappear. It was pretty clear that it was an FR deletion as the message was "this thread has been deleted." Sometimes my sarcasm is a bit too oblique.
28 posted on 02/22/2002 5:35:37 AM PST by KirkandBurke
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