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Santa Barbara Libertarians help win Boy Scout discrimination fight
LP News ^ | February | LP

Posted on 02/15/2002 6:50:19 AM PST by DoSomethingAboutIt

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To: freeeee;Texaggie79
I feel it urgent that everyone who wants the Constitution reinstated should unite, stand up and demand it.

Amen!

181 posted on 02/19/2002 10:22:47 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: Kevin Curry
Government intrusion isn't something I seek.

Liar.

182 posted on 02/19/2002 10:24:03 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Roscoe
I'm not a racist. I think that all people should be equal before the law. If you force someone to employ or rent a person because of that person's race, people are not equal before the law. Anti-White laws ARE racist.
183 posted on 02/19/2002 10:25:49 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: Texaggie79
Now that's my kind of state!

I used to live in the People's Socialist Republik of Taxachusetts, but I moved to rural Florida, so I could hobnob amongst drunken bikers in peace.

New Hampshire was a possibility, but it's too cold there and was being polluted by Massholes such as myself who had already ruined their own state.

Regards.

184 posted on 02/19/2002 10:26:28 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Texaggie79
You imagine a lot of things aggie. - One of them is that everyone here knows your intent when you think you're 'having fun' by making nasty remarks.

Taint so. The medium doesn't put forth that message. --- And we can't read your self centered mind.

185 posted on 02/19/2002 10:26:54 AM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine, freeeee
One of them is that everyone here knows your intent when you think you're 'having fun' by making nasty remarks.

Let's ask him then, shall we? Freeeee, did you take my post to you in #166 the wrong way, or did you grasp it's humorous intent?

186 posted on 02/19/2002 10:29:53 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Smile-n-Win
I'm not a racist.

Then your imitation is excellent.

If you force someone to employ or rent a person because of that person's race, people are not equal before the law.

If you refuse employment or tenancy to certain racial groups, you're engaged in illegal racist practices.

187 posted on 02/19/2002 10:30:51 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Texaggie79
Another thing. -- "You're searching for love in all the wrong places."
188 posted on 02/19/2002 10:31:50 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Texaggie79
We respect communities and groups. Democrats don't.

LOL!!! DemocRats respect nothing but communities and groups -- hence, their various flavors of identity politics.

189 posted on 02/19/2002 10:32:21 AM PST by steve-b
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To: BillofRights
These so-called conservatives are simply authoritarians who want to force THEIR will down the throats of others.

Yup. (See my post #75. "And we don't apologize!")

(Just to put it into context, Libertarians want to force their will on others, too: no force, no fraud. If I wanted to be fraudulent, I might accuse you of using force to keep me from being fraudulent. Or from initiating force. In fact, this is what Liberals do!)

190 posted on 02/19/2002 10:33:17 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: steve-b
DemocRats respect nothing but communities and groups

Really? So they respect the boy scouts? Do they respect my community that does not wish to allow gay marriages? Do they respect my state when our head Justice said that homosexuals are deviants and should not be allowed to have children?

191 posted on 02/19/2002 10:34:06 AM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79; tpaine
I thought it was pretty funny. You're not one of the bad guys here.

You don't troll, and haven't made personal attacks against me, and have plenty of logic in your replies, rather than just plain old emotionalism, remniscent of liberals that is all too common here.

Which is quite a refreshing change I must say, from some other people I won't mention. I wish those other people would come up with some new witty remarks, because being called a druggie gets pretty old.

192 posted on 02/19/2002 10:36:40 AM PST by freeeee
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To: Texaggie79
A city could not function under several different standards.

What are you talking about? Every city with more than a few thousand inhabitants has fairly clear residential, commercial, etc. regions (either through government-imposed zoning or through natural development) with markedly different standards of normal activities and construction.

193 posted on 02/19/2002 10:37:06 AM PST by steve-b
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To: Roscoe
I'm not a racist.

Then your imitation is excellent.

Now if you say you're not a Liberal, I'll say your imitation is excellent! ;-)

I am White, but I have never ever hated or even disliked anyone because he wasn't White. And I don't think I'll ever choose to employ a White person if there is a better-suited Black candidate for the job. Unless, of course, it is illegal for me to employ the Black guy. And that's just what your favorite law says, only with the colors swapped!

194 posted on 02/19/2002 10:38:59 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: Texaggie79
An airline captain I knew, with three kids, decided he was gay at about 40.

Does the state have the power to take away his kids?

195 posted on 02/19/2002 10:41:07 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Smile-n-Win
Unless, of course, it is illegal for me to employ the Black guy. And that's just what your favorite law says, only with the colors swapped!

Really? Mind quoting it?

196 posted on 02/19/2002 10:41:33 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Smile-n-Win
I have never ever hated or even disliked anyone because he wasn't White.

A-ha, so you admit you hate women who aren't white. Just kidding :-)

197 posted on 02/19/2002 10:44:03 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: Roscoe
Unless, of course, it is illegal for me to employ the Black guy. And that's just what your favorite law says, only with the colors swapped!

Really? Mind quoting it?

I don't know the exact language of the law (luckily, I needn't--I'm not an American). Perhaps it doesn't mention colors. But it was passed by Liberals to discriminate against Whites, and it is used by Liberals to discriminate against Whites. And to hurt the economy.

To approach the matter from another direction, do you support laws against refusing to employ ugly (pardon me, aesthetically challenged) women (sorry: persons) as stewardesses (oops ... flight attendants)?

198 posted on 02/19/2002 10:53:38 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: Kevin Curry
On balance our society, no longer meets the criteria for self government? Was the past truly golden, or is it just the rosy glow of your perspective. By many standards, this is a better society than that of the past, and the continued reliance on the crutch of a centralized, all knowing govt, will only weaken the society as a whole. Most of the societal woes have come about by the entitlement. Without the worry of loss of a paycheck, or fear of children and wives starving if a husband left the home, we have become a society of incompetents. That has been caused by the strong hand of Mommy govt, not by the decline of man.

Weaken the grip of the law, return responsibility to the individual, and watch people as a whole, correct most of the things I am sure you think of as wrong. You, or God, cannot make people more loving or moral by enforcing laws. It makes moral wrongs, become conflicts with the law. When govt takes the hobbles off of the economic horse, the economy soars, if they would take the chains off of the individual, morality will be in vogue again.

199 posted on 02/19/2002 10:58:31 AM PST by jeremiah
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To: BillOfRights;freeeee
To follow up on #190:

Libertarians say that it is immoral to initiate force or fraud. I agree with this, with a little change: "it is immoral to initiate force other than in order to enforce morality." (Without this amendment, you couldn't use force to stop fraud.)

But the problem is, the Liberals would not agree to it when it did not suit them! You know how irrational they can get. They would call you immoral, claiming that you wanted to force your morality on them.

This is to make the point that there is no such thing as absolute morality. There is no morality that everyone agrees on. I wish there were, but there isn't. Morality is determined by ... oh, I hate to say this ... the majority. Too bad!

200 posted on 02/19/2002 11:03:43 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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