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You Can Surf, but You Can't Hide
New York Times ^ | 02-07-02 | Lisa Guernsey

Posted on 02/07/2002 10:08:28 PM PST by exodus

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1 posted on 02/07/2002 10:08:28 PM PST by exodus
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To: boston_liberty; Black Jade; BenF; agitator; xcon; Uncle Bill; Mixer; ratcat; zon; tshirt;
Yes, I am a little paranoid, as you can see by what I chose to highlight.
I think I have good reason, though.

Already, authorities can come into your house without a warrant. They can search your property, take whatever they feel will be useful, and they don't even have to tell you that they were there.

2 posted on 02/07/2002 10:12:06 PM PST by exodus
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To: exodus

3 posted on 02/07/2002 10:17:06 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: BillofRights; christine11; nunya bidness; Askel5; OKCSubmariner; Cicero; Free the USA;
"...Imagine being able to learn without dialing a single digit whether another person's phone is in use, or in the case of a cellphone, whether it is even turned on. Now imagine being able to do the same thing with any wired or wireless device of the future whether it is in the car, in an airplane or at the gym..."
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Imagine that not only can they come into your house, they can tell WITHOUT coming into your house what you are doing, what you are watching, what appliances you used that day, who you talked to, and what you said to them.

4 posted on 02/07/2002 10:17:24 PM PST by exodus
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To: Rain-maker
Exactly, Rain-maker.
It's not that farfetched, either.
5 posted on 02/07/2002 10:20:17 PM PST by exodus
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To: Grut; ralph rotten; copycat; cdwright; sarcasm; trueBeliever9; Libertina; Reagan is King;
"...The prospect of information that can reveal a person's availability at a given moment, anywhere in the world strikes many people as both creepy and intriguing..."
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I believe that it would be VERY intriguing to those who seek to make sure we're "safe."

6 posted on 02/07/2002 10:25:50 PM PST by exodus
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To: exodus;*Privacy_list
bump
7 posted on 02/07/2002 10:29:37 PM PST by One More Time
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To: GeekDejure; AAABEST; sinkspur; Doctor Stochastic; joyful1;
"...But along with comfort comes the unnerving feeling of being watched...Information that was private (or at least not easy to acquire) can become known with little effort by employers, co-workers, friends, family members and, sometimes, by strangers..."
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Information easily aquired.

That's fine when I want to know something,
but not so good when someone wants to violate my privacy.

8 posted on 02/07/2002 10:33:35 PM PST by exodus
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To: One More Time
Thanks for the "bump."
9 posted on 02/07/2002 10:34:37 PM PST by exodus
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To: *Ron Paul list; *billofrights; *Computer Security In
"...., officials have discussed how presence software, wireless hand-held computers and G.P.S. tracking could alert a person when a friend happened to be a few blocks away..."
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Really?!

I wonder what else presence software could be used for.

10 posted on 02/07/2002 10:38:43 PM PST by exodus
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To: exodus
They'd have trouble with me. I refuse to use IM (the world's biggest timewaster aside from television). I don't have a cordless phone, don't own a pager, don't own a beeper, don't have a telephone in my car. I had to answer phones for a living for 20 years. I RELISH not being available by phone. I rarely pick up the phone in my own house unless I recognize the call by Caller ID.

Sure, I could be followed on the internet but all they'd know is what time I spent on the internet and where I visited. I've assumed anyone who wants to know this already has a way to find it. But when I sign off, I'm not accessible.

20 years ago, people had a landlocked home phone and some had an answering machine and everyone was more-or-less happy with it. Then came telemarketers and beepers and pagers and cell phones and e-mail then spam mail and IM and pretty soon people needed to sort out the people they wanted to give access to from the people they didn't. So now you see Caller IDs and voicemails and technology such as this. Frankly, I'd be happier if we canned all this allegedly liberating technology (except e-mail), make telemarketing and spamming capital crimes (one strike and you're dead law) and go back to a nice peaceful existence where the phone rang only when a friend or family member was trying to reach you and your e-mail was only from folks you give a %$&* about.

Peace. What a novel concept.

11 posted on 02/07/2002 10:41:54 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: *bio_metrics
"..."Until we get to the bioimplant," said Craig Peddie, who works on presence technology at Motorola, "we won't be able to know that you really have it with you."
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See?!

Already, someone can imagine new uses for this "presence" software. Isn't technology wonderful?

12 posted on 02/07/2002 10:46:15 PM PST by exodus
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To: exodus
This is a dreadful thing !
13 posted on 02/07/2002 10:46:51 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Tall_Texan
Peace. What a novel concept.
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I'm with you, Tall_Texan.

There is a use for communication technology, but it's been allowed to become much too invasive. Being able to talk to those you care about is good, but privacy is just as important.

14 posted on 02/07/2002 11:00:08 PM PST by exodus
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To: nopardons
This is a dreadful thing!
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Yes, it is, nopardons.

Most people will accept it without a thought, never realizing what they've given up. It's SO convenient to know when someone is available, and I can even tell when Momma is awake!

I know that the kid is at school, in the gym. I know that my wife is at Walmart, in the craft section. They know where I am, too.

So do other people, people you don't even know. Strangers. People who patrol outside your house, who's job it is to "protect and serve." The good guys.

But here's also people who aren't so good, the bad guys. And they have access to the same information. I really don't want to make THEIR job easier.

15 posted on 02/07/2002 11:13:59 PM PST by exodus
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Well, hell must be freezing over, becuase we are in complete agreement. LOL

I don't want anyone ( not even my own kiddo ) to know where I am, every minute of every day ; let alone crooks, for whom, this would be a GOD send. My kiddo already HAS mental radar, and calls the minute I am serving dinner, no matter what time that is.

16 posted on 02/07/2002 11:42:20 PM PST by nopardons
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To: exodus
As I've always said, it not the technology that harms; guns don't kill; it's people that chose to use technology to do harm that need to be ostracized.

How to shrink big government to limited government. Get businesses to ostracize the government - stop selling the government products and services -- on the premise that the government can't be trusted to do the right thing more often than it does the wrong thing. Proof is that government is several times larger than the people need. Obviously there are certain products and services that a limited government requires to defend individual rights. Everything else is ostracized.

How about tracking politicians and bureaucrats so that every store clerk will know at the register to ostracize the politician or bureaucrat. "Sorry, but we don't sell to politicians that violate their oath of office to the people and the constitution and write/pass unconstitutional laws -- get out now and don't come back." Same goes for parasitical elite that advocate and support the politicians that violate their oath of office. "Sorry, but we don't sell our goods and services to any person that advocates or supports or is complicit in politicians violating their oath of office. Yes Mr. Rather, that means you are ostracized, leave now and don't come back."

 

17 posted on 02/07/2002 11:52:34 PM PST by Zon
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To: exodus
"Until we get to the bioimplant," said Craig Peddie, who works on presence technology at Motorola, "we won't be able to know that you really have it with you."
Are the 'buzzwords" changing? Seems like it.
18 posted on 02/08/2002 12:01:14 AM PST by philman_36
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To: Tall_Texan
Peace? Free Republic. Peace???
19 posted on 02/08/2002 12:20:41 AM PST by Ben Chad
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