FREEP THIS POLL: "Can gay couples make good adoptive parents?"

CNN ^ | 2/4/2002 | who cares

[Barset]

I know of a Lesbian couple, one in social services, who adopted a multihandicapped boy, who had been abused and abandoned by his natural, heterosexual parents, a pair of selfish drunks (oh, right, it's a sickness.) A few of the child's physical deformities had been inflicted on him by his married parents and their happy-go-lucky fellow sufferers, by serial beatings so brutal,attending physicians in ERs at different hospitals around the city begged and threatened social services not to return the child to the parents who demanded counselling at each hospital for their lack of "coping skills." The parents eventually left the boy at a hospital where their lack of coping skills had caused the boy to be admitted on the very critical list, and the attending physician recognizing the boy from past ER visits at another hospital, called the police, the newspapers, and television stations. The boy was "unavailable" for adoption as his parents, unable to cope with this last physicians' insensitivity to their victimhood, changed residence to another state without signing a release. The boy, weakened by abuse and neglect barely responded to intensive care. He did respond to the social worker who stopped by after her workday and quietly read her Bible (Yes, I am sure she skipped the parts saying she should be stoned.) There was no room in the overcrowded foster care system. When the child improved, the social worker, with her partner's agreement, brought the boy home. The doctors had said the boy would be mentally retarded because of the beatings, but the social worker and her partner encouraged the boy to try and the the youngster disproved the doctors' prognosis. If the adoption agencies do their job with investigation and follow up, which includes checking criminal records, decent people should be allowed to give children a good home.

[EODGUY]

I came up a day late and a dollar short, ArGee. The poll of cnn importance now is whether Jihad Johnny should get bond.

Perhaps the homosexual adoptive parents poll was headed in a direction management didn't like??????

God bless

EODGUY

[Fethiye]

ArGee, I don't want to give you a snide response here, because I think your sentiments are genuine. I have undertaken my "lifestyle" (about which, you must admit, you know almost nothing) not in the interest of pursuing "political correctness" but to be true to myself. And that has brought me great fulfillment -- in the form of marriage (as we consider it) to a partner whom I hold dearer than life.

I only hope that you have found as much happiness in your relationships as have I. If so, I would not dream of suggesting that I know a better way for you to live.

I would ask the same respect from you.

[jla]

"Can gay couples make good adoptive parents?"

If I may quote the honorable & esteemed Senator Jesse Helms...

"Noooo!"

[ArGee]

I would ask the same respect from you.

Because there is such a thing as truth, I can't grant it.

I can wish you well and hope you will be happy. But I can also pray that you will see that there is an ultimate truth to yourself that you have yet to find.

I know a lot more about your lifestyle choice than you think, and as much as one can know without making that same choice.

But I will grant you this much respect. I won't ask you to want to change. I will only ask that you remember, if you should ever need to remember, that you may.

Shalom.

[Carry_Okie]

"Can gay couples make good adoptive parents?"

Conceivably, but it is statistically so unlikely and so fraught with HIGHLY likely adverse consequences as to be a horrible policy.

[azhenfud]

I agree...
Az

[psycho-sis]

Too bad you are unable to give an answer to this question. It is much more effective to shoot it back at me. I KNOW WHAT I THINK. I was asking YOU.

[psycho-sis]

Thanks for this story.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

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[Looking for Diogenes]

Please state your reasoning as to how a homosexual couple can provide a child with a mother and father.

More children are deprived of a father or mother because of divorce and heterosexual promiscuity than because of adoption by homosexuals. If providing a stable home with both a father and mother present is the requirement for raising children, then we need to overhaul the divorce laws ASAP.

[azhenfud]

This is by no means an attempt to flame you, but YOU, my friend, would have better known my position had you carefully read my first post, #51. But, far be it from me to choose between another's poisons as both are equally deadly.
Neither of the two are best for the child - we probably agree on this point, but the additional burden of the exposure to a queer relationship heaped upon the prior absence of a loving, stable home atmosphere which most adoptive children are lacking, certainly can't better the odds of the child's best development, monogamous Phags or not. Pay close attention to the words "loving, stable home atmosphere" before turning on that burner, please.
Simply put, why make an already bad situation the child is in potentially worse, when there are thousands of "straight" families waiting for these children? I've been taught all my life - although not PC acceptable (and I don't really care whether it is PC or not), "When in doubt, leave it out" not "If it feels good, do it". So afterall, shouldn't the child's best interest take precedence and be the focal concern? I believe so.
So, what do YOU think?

[Mikey]

"Gay, if you please."

Gay. "Having or showing a joyous mood."

First off, with the suicide rate being so high amongst those in that "lifestyle" I would say using the word "gay" to describe homosexuality is definitely incorrect.

If you want to start using the proper terms;

HOMOSEXUAL. "Pertaining to or exhibiting homosexuality. A homosexual person."

HOMOSEXUALITY. "Sexual feelings for a person of the same sex, with an impulse towards genital expression."

SODOMITE. "An inhabitant of Sodom. One who practices sodomy."

SODOMY. " unnatural sexual intercourse, esp. of one man with another or of a human being with an animal."

All definitions taken from; THE AMERICAN COLLEGE DICTIONARY, 1958.

[Fethiye]

Well, I'm sure you realize that the use of "gay" to mean homosexual is commonly accepted. You don't have to use it that way, of course. But others are likely to continue to do so.

And, really, using a 1958 dictionary as your authority!?! Ah, the good old days.

[Mikey]

"Well, I'm sure you realize that the use of "gay" to mean homosexual is commonly accepted."

Accepted by whom? The sodomite community, children that have been taught in the public fool school system that wrong is right and right is wrong, all those who believe politically correct is better than the truth?

I do not accept the word gay to mean homosexual. I believe the use of the word gay to mean homosexual is a slap in the face and an insult to every heterosexual man and woman in this Country.

Why do I use a 1958 dictionary is simple;

1). I use any dictionary that is pre-PC,

2). I like to use pre-PC dictionaries so I can understand the true meaning of a word. The word gay means the same today as it meant 50 years ago or 100 years ago.

3). All PC speak is so ridiculous. Today a word means this, tomorrow it means something else. Today up is up but, tomorrow up may mean down.

"You don't have to use it that way, of course. But others are likely to continue to do so."

No Gay does not mean homosexual. Homosexual means homosexual. If you can't stand being called what your really are, than maybe you ought to re examine your so called normal life style.
If a murderer doesn't like to be called a murderer, maybe he or she shouldn't murder. If a thief doesn't like to be called a thief, than maybe she or he should stop stealing. If a homosexual doesn't like to be called a homosexual, than maybe he or she should stop being a homosexual.

One can call manure a rose all day long but, manure is still manure and it still stinks.

END OF STORY.