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Another Top 100: This Time, It's Intellectuals
NY Times Arts Section ^ | January 19, 2002 | WILLIAM GRIMES

Posted on 01/19/2002 5:31:34 AM PST by Pharmboy

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Unfortunately, the Times' web site does not have the list posted, but it is in the print edition. Many more conservatives than I would have predicted. For example:
3-George Will
5-William J Bennett
10-William Safire (yeah, I know)
14 Antonin Scalia
(lemme skip ahead here)74-ANN COULTER
75-DAVID HOROWITZ

You get the idea.

1 posted on 01/19/2002 5:31:34 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
Very interesting post. I'd love to see the whole list. Maybe it's online, I'll check and if so post a link here.
2 posted on 01/19/2002 5:39:24 AM PST by veronica
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3-George Will....

FYI....

3 posted on 01/19/2002 5:40:56 AM PST by veronica
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Here' the Top 20:


1-Henery Kissinger
2-Daniel Patrick Moynihan
3-George Will
4-Lawrence H. Summers
5-William J. Bennett
6-Robert B. Reich
7-Sidney Blumenthal (gag)
8Arthur R. Miller
9-Salman Rushdie
10-William Safire
11-George Orwell
12-Alan M. Dershowitz (2x gag)
13-Toni Morrison (oy)
14-Antonin Scalia
15-Tom Wolfe
16-Norman Mailer
17-George Bernard Shaw
18-Vaclav havel
19-William Kristol
20-William F. Buckley, Jr.

4 posted on 01/19/2002 5:49:41 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Clarity
Ping*

And nice to have you back.

5 posted on 01/19/2002 5:51:25 AM PST by Pharmboy
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19-William Kristol

"Weakly Standards" Bill Kristol?

6 posted on 01/19/2002 5:56:47 AM PST by newzjunkey
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Toni Morrison and Blumenthal rate higher than Scalia and WF Buckley? LOL...Buckley should be in the top 5. If not number 1. He practically invented the modern Conservative movement. PLUS he's an author, magazine publisher, had the longest running show on PBS, on and on. Scalia is too low on the list too.
7 posted on 01/19/2002 5:58:05 AM PST by veronica
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It seems to be a numbers game heavily dependent on Google hits.

Gore Vidal, 25; Robert H. Bork, 26.

8 posted on 01/19/2002 5:59:07 AM PST by Pharmboy
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Gore Vidal, 25...

Barf.

9 posted on 01/19/2002 6:01:15 AM PST by veronica
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Some more for you:

28-Timothy Leary; 29-Thomas L. Friedman (yech); 34- Milton Friedman (awrightttt); 42-Joyce Carol Oates; 44-Ayn Rand; 50-Aldous Huxley; 55-Henry louis Gates Jr.; 58-Susan Sontag; 60-Ezra Pound; 63-Richard Dawkins; 66-Camille Paglia; 82-Marshall McLuhan; 84-Lawrence Tribe; 88-Paul Johnson;91-Naom Chomsky (frankly, I'm surprised the little commie is that low); 96-David Frum; 99-Lani Guinier and 100-George J. Stigler

10 posted on 01/19/2002 6:04:44 AM PST by Pharmboy
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To: Pharmboy
Not enough (gag)s. ;^)

I hope this exercise was satirical; such a reductionist model is laughable.

What a snapshot of the emaciated state of contemporary intellectual life!

12 posted on 01/19/2002 9:15:01 AM PST by headsonpikes
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It seems to be a numbers game heavily dependent on Google hits.

Yes, even the Times seemed surprised by the number of hits for Camus.

But then, I had to read Camus in high school, so it could appear on a number of "reading lists" and the band the Cure wrote a song Killing An Arab that was based on The Stranger. If fan pages on the band mention the source material, that would boost hits.

I wonder how many of Timothy Leary's mentions don't have LSD as the primary reason for using his name.

Toni Morrison proclaimed Bill Clinton as the first "black" president. How many of the hits are the attribute for that claim?

Basically, if you do something outlandish, you will get the web references.

And not to dig at the guy, but how many of Kissenger's web references (and periodicals) are leftists complaining about covert actions they attribute to Henry?

13 posted on 01/19/2002 10:15:48 AM PST by weegee
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Yes--all good points; but then why wouldn't Kurt Cobain be there? He must get a lot of Google hits. No musician/philosophers allowed?
14 posted on 01/19/2002 11:14:54 AM PST by Pharmboy
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"No musician/philosophers allowed?" LOL!!

If THAT door were opened, my money's on Elvis!

15 posted on 01/19/2002 11:20:37 AM PST by headsonpikes
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Nuthin' wrong with George Jones on that one either...
16 posted on 01/19/2002 11:26:01 AM PST by Pharmboy
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13-Toni Morrison (oy)

13th on the Top 100 Intellectuals list? Doesn't Whoopee Goldberg come before her? Quadruple "oy".

17 posted on 01/19/2002 11:30:52 AM PST by Orual
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To: Pharmboy
I don't know the criteria on who is/isn't an intellectual.

There is at least a small representation from several politial viewpoints but the author of the list needed to have more conviction to choose who he(they) thought should be on the list and in the order of importance, not because of "web" or periodical standings.

Leary was an addict who never came to terms with his addiction and used his degree to explain his compulsive use of drugs. He even admitted to using heroin and ketamine (animal tranquilizers). He was looking for a fix and wanted to sample all of it, even drugs that he knew to be self-destructive. He was busted for alchol while at military school.

Tom Wolfe wrote about Ken Kesey's Acid Tests in detail (in his first original book, one that wasn't just a collection of smaller pieces). Wolfe swears to this day that he did not use LSD and says that it would have compromised his objectivity. Leary never saw a conflict.

Was John Lennon an intellectual?

How about a list of "damned intellectuals"?

19 posted on 01/19/2002 11:36:35 AM PST by weegee
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Lists like this make me glad that I own my own library. When I recollect which 'intellectuals' most influenced my worldview, few on that d*mned list are included.

At least he includes Orwell, who predicted men like him.

Orwell!! At #11...look at the names above him! DISGUSTING!

20 posted on 01/19/2002 11:45:03 AM PST by headsonpikes
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