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Antarctica Desert Getting Colder
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Posted on 01/13/2002 2:55:14 PM PST by NativeNewYorker

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To: Ditter
,,, Tiger Woods flew out of here last night after playing the New Zealand Open. That was called off for some hours part way thru because of very heavy rain - that's a five minute drive from my house. This really is both amazing and disappointing for what's meant to be summer.
21 posted on 01/13/2002 4:58:03 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: NativeNewYorker
Antarctica Desert Getting Colder

How can that be???? Has anyone asked Algore about it?

22 posted on 01/13/2002 5:01:52 PM PST by jackbill
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To: shaggy eel
Don't recall that particular mission.

But given the lack of follow-up press, whatever they found couldn't be sold as supporting the Global Warming hoax.

23 posted on 01/13/2002 5:04:04 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
WAY cool site!
24 posted on 01/13/2002 5:07:14 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
The lower stratospheric data show a significant cooling trend, which is consistent with ozone depletion.

So we can counter global warming by killing the ozone layer?

25 posted on 01/13/2002 5:09:18 PM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: NativeNewYorker
,,, I have no fixed opinion on global warming because I doubt any data from either side of the debate. It's most probably heavily manipulated and creative. However, the weather just ain't what it used to be. I'm scheduling days off in winter (June/July/August) this year as it's quite possibly going to be better than what we have now. October for us was third wettest on record since 1926 and December 2001 was the cloudiest on record. It's been strange for some years and I don't hold out too much hope for a rapid turnaround.
26 posted on 01/13/2002 5:13:55 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: RightWhale
Actually, global warming seems to be disappearing gradually from the planet.

So what, are again into the nuclear winter now? I wanna be with it and up-to-date with my liberal surroundings.

27 posted on 01/13/2002 5:19:19 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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To: shaggy eel
,,, I think it may have been last year NASA sent a plane down to circle Antarctica for a while to work out the present size and condition of the ozone hole - did you ever hear anything about the findings of that research?

NASA scientists at thhe Goddard Space Flight Center said that the Ozone hole in 2000 was equal in size with the largest on record ozone hole during 1999. The lake of change was attributed to a leveling off of the phenomenon since CFC's have been banned. They expect the ozone hole to start shinking from here on out.

The problem is that prior to the CFC ban those same scientists said that the upper atmospheric clorine and ozone depletion would continue to increase until the year 2050 even if CFC production were totally stopped at the time of the ban.

Now they've interpreted conflicting data as support for their beliefs. What con men these enviro scientists are...

Re: this thread. Since the ozone depletion is a function of temperature, I wonder if the thermal variation in Antarctica isn't the cause of the ozone hole growth observed recently. The timeframes are similar.

28 posted on 01/13/2002 5:41:08 PM PST by UnChained
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To: UnChained; shaggy eel
Sorry. the results were for years 2001 and 2000 rather than 2000 an 1999 like I said.
29 posted on 01/13/2002 5:43:40 PM PST by UnChained
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To: UnChained
,,, thanx for this input. I don't know enough to comment further. What I'd like to know though is do you think this will have any bearing on these El Nino weather patterns at all?
30 posted on 01/13/2002 5:46:23 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: NativeNewYorker
It says that it is cooling in the stratosphere is consistent with ozone depletion, not that ozone depletion causes cooling (although this may be the case). Of course, the next sentence is ...

In addition to the recent cooling [stratosphere or troposphere?], large temporary warming perturbations may be seen in the data due to two major volcanic eruptions: El Chichon in March 1982, and Mt. Pinatubo in June 1991.

31 posted on 01/13/2002 8:05:12 PM PST by KayEyeDoubleDee
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To: Ole Okie
Or they'll just revive the theory that was popular with I was in high school during the 1970's-- the industrialization is blocking out the sun's rays and leading to global cooling, the solution for which is, by some strange coincidence, exactly the same as the solution for global warming:

Turn all industrial regulation over to the enlighted Marxist-Scientists.

32 posted on 01/14/2002 3:10:33 AM PST by Rubber Duckie
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To: KayEyeDoubleDee
Hey. If their reasoning can be sloppy, so can mine! :)
33 posted on 01/14/2002 3:22:38 AM PST by NativeNewYorker
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To: Rubber Duckie
Indeed!
34 posted on 01/14/2002 4:34:21 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: RightWhale
America, of course, withdrew from global warming a year ago.

That explains it, of course. It getting colder, I mean. Dang, I thought this winter was like getting back to the old xmas-card days :).

35 posted on 01/14/2002 8:06:17 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Rubber Duckie
"Turn all industrial regulation over to the enlighted Marxist-Scientists."

Who let the dogs out? HERE :D

Bump

36 posted on 01/14/2002 8:18:28 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: NativeNewYorker
And then you'll say
Even in time we shall control the day
When all you'll see
Deep inside the day's controlling you and me.

You'll see Perpetual Change.
You'll see Perpetual Change


37 posted on 01/14/2002 9:16:22 AM PST by lds23
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To: Scruffdog
,,, heavier than air particles?
39 posted on 01/14/2002 10:02:40 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: NativeNewYorker
Rush is covering this article now.
40 posted on 01/14/2002 10:21:42 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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