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Enron is not Bush's Whitewater: It's Worse
CBS Marketwatch ^ | 1/10/02 | David Callaway

Posted on 01/10/2002 7:00:04 AM PST by brbethke

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To: CrabTree
Why the different standard for Wendy Gramm?

In a perfect world, there wouldn't be. As you accurately note, this forum is quick to jump on liberals, especially ones that we despise. Very few are willing to stick up for Hillary or anyone like her because we hate her guts and hope that the accusations against her are true.

But an honest analysis of the situation would indicate that we know far less about Wendy Gramm's involvement in these matters than what we know about Hillary's involvement in anything she was accused of here.

I sincerely doubt whether even 1% of the people here, much less the entire country, could pick Wendy Gramm out of a photo lineup. She might legally qualify as a "public figure", but realistically she is virtually unknown. We know even less of what her actual involvement at Enron was.

That's why this forum treats the two women differently. It doesn't excuse some of the outrageous allegations that have been made here. To be fair, many of the claims are made by a small minority, but they don't receive the rebuttal that your claims have been, to be sure.

Certainly you can't expect to come to this forum and make similar statements about Senator Gramm's wife and expect a similar reaction to statements made here about Hillary. You're not that dumb. If you think it's hypocritical of us, I wouldn't argue from a technical point of view. We're not a forum whose primary mission is to explore liberal claims of conservative malfeasance in hopes that they are true.

As far as your implication that Loral got off lightly because of some Bush family attachment to China, you really need to rethink how much your political agenda is affecting your ability to be objective. You can separate the two if you really try.

203 posted on 01/11/2002 7:50:41 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
If it turns out that she was knowingly complicit in a scheme to mislead shareholders, then she should and will be held accountable. I not only don't have a problem with that, but will heartily endorse it.

Has history taught us nothing??? We need to wait for the facts. By hysterically condemning her with out all the facts and without her chance to tell her side,..is unjust.

I agree with Dog Gone. My boot will be in the frey with everyone elses if she is culpable.

If everyone starts to believe every little thing they hear.. this will only serve to create choas. Now won't that just make the people trying to KILL AMERICANS happier than pigs in poop!! Lets sit back and watch this. Lets not malign decent honest hard working peoples reputations. Be they Democrat or Republican. It doesn't serve anyone well.

Lets let calmer heads previal. I might even suggest we take the lead from our President and VP., Mary Matlin and the other able bodied staffers. What your going to see here is integrety, honestly and an Administration very willing to help in any way possible. They WON'T STONEWALL!!! Trust them... and give them a chance. We need to believe in them, unless PROVEN wrong. Then LOOK OUT!! (Which I would bet my right arm will never happen!!)

204 posted on 01/11/2002 11:51:23 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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