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Enron is not Bush's Whitewater: It's Worse
CBS Marketwatch ^ | 1/10/02 | David Callaway

Posted on 01/10/2002 7:00:04 AM PST by brbethke

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To: brbethke
Enron cultivated Bush from the time he first decided to run for governor of Texas, with executives donating a total of $623,000 to his two gubernatorial campaigns and presidential campaign, according to The Center for Public Integrity.
Isn't there an expression called "hedging your bet"?
181 posted on 01/11/2002 4:53:09 AM PST by philman_36
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To: CrabTree;dog gone;deport;registered;howlin;don morgan
* * * ASH ALERT * * *

182 posted on 01/11/2002 4:57:36 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RightWhale
I agree. National Review had an article not to far back about the notion of Bush/Cheney helping out their oil buddies. If that were so, how come the price of oil has dropped significantly since they took office and Enron has collapsed. Doesn't look like much help there.

The Dems are salivating but as has been said before, they better be careful for they may not like what they find, i.e., Ron Brown, Clinton, Gore, etc.

183 posted on 01/11/2002 5:56:05 AM PST by Wphile
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To: CrabTree
But ringing your bell...... LOL
184 posted on 01/11/2002 6:03:23 AM PST by deport
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To: Wphile
I can think of only one action that this White House has taken which affects Enron. It agreed to Federal price caps on electricity in California, something which Enron opposed.

No matter how loud the slobbering liberals scream about Enron ties to this Administration, there is nothing to it. Without question, Enron tried to gain political influence over the years by making political contributions. But, at least with the Bush Administration, it was a lousy investment.

185 posted on 01/11/2002 6:07:28 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: brbethke
Could someone, preferably a Dem, explain just how campaign contributions (less than went to klinton) could be criminal or show evidence of wrongdoing by President Bush?

Could someone explain how an energy company (energy being a very important issue in this country) having very limited access to the whitehouse could be illegal or wrong?

Could someone explain how selling nuclear secrets to a hostile government (proof of which does exist) could NOT be criminal?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?

186 posted on 01/11/2002 6:11:16 AM PST by lawdude
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To: brbethke
An excellent break down at Neal Boortz's Web Site.
187 posted on 01/11/2002 6:14:57 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So
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To: Nix 2
Thanks, I remember the names, now. Do you have any links to those old threads about the telecommunications company?
188 posted on 01/11/2002 6:50:00 AM PST by Eva
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To: CrabTree
The judge's ruling was hardly surprising as you make it out. And showing the necessity of the order is not a small hurdle but always the largest one that the plaintiffs had.

The silly bleating of the plaintiffs' attorney that they had such "evidence" was typical of such counsel - but if he really had it, he would have included it in his initial request.

Your implication that Wendy Gramm was in any special circumstance was like your exaggeration of the news item.

189 posted on 01/11/2002 7:27:51 AM PST by spqrzilla9
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To: cake_crumb
Sounds like a case of wishful thinking on the part of CBS

I swear, you took the words right out of my mouth!

190 posted on 01/11/2002 7:31:40 AM PST by rdb3
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To: brbethke
If Enron got such lucrative "favors", why are they going bankrupt?
192 posted on 01/11/2002 10:11:39 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: brbethke
How a small group of business leaders exert enormous clout over Bush and his team in getting the rules changed to their benefit.

What dark deep orafice does "David Callaway is executive editor of CBS.MarketWatch.com" have his head up??

Leaders of our Nation MUST meet with Business leaders. Besides being a Free Republic and doing the business associated with running that kind of Government, an administration must be up to date with idea's from industry leaders. Who hopefully are leading the way in developement, and ingenuity. There is NO WAY a Government will always know all things about all business's. But Enron is about to find out that some people will set all relations and friendships aside when laws are broken.. and side with the law!! (REFRESHING ISN'T IT??)

The important thing to remember is that when Enron notified people in the Bush Administration about the possibility of a Bankruptcy,.. the Bush Admin. refused to do anything for them. Unlike previous administrations under simular circumstances.

I happen to agree with this administrations response. (But the big money makers won't agree, those with their fingers in the *financial* pot, or whose States economy's relied on Enron for revenue!!) 2BAD!!!

I also KNOW with certainty,.. that this administration will be up front and not procrastinate. This is going to become a "Non administration story", and become the story about Enron. Which it should be. Enron and the Accounting Firm that reported that Enron was "fine" while knowing different,.. and now admit to destroying papers.

It seems many people thought the example left by the previous administration (shredding papers,.. not responding to subpeona's, obstructing justice) was an example to follow. They made a HUGE mistake of thinking business could continue like it did during the previous administration.

They are about to find out,.. President Bush is a different kind of politician. Get ready... the best is yet to come!!! Hold on to your girdle Myrtle.. the ride is going to be wild. But your going to have your faith "restored" in our Elected officials (Maybe I should quantify that by saying "the Bush Administration" **for now**... as it will take a while for his example to be mirrored by others.)

People just keep on misjudging President Bush's integrity and intelligence (as well as VP Cheney, etc.) This will end up being another fine example of the kind of administration this one is.. trust me!! I have total faith in his leadership and his integrity.

THANK GOD.. we have President Bush and his administration!!! What a relief!! The liberals are quaking in their proverbial boots. President Bush has ended up being such a HUGE blessing to the country,..and that is a HUGE threat to them.

Again.. just watch how different the responses to this from this administration will be compared to simular responses from the previous admin.

The DIFFERENCES will be strikingly obvious!!!

193 posted on 01/11/2002 10:43:18 AM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: dalebert
$20,000 donation to Schumer for starters.
194 posted on 01/11/2002 10:49:47 AM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Spook86
Could this entire thing have been hatched between Dems and Enron after Enron found out Bush would not play ball?
195 posted on 01/11/2002 10:50:14 AM PST by dalebert
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To: CrabTree
I could give a damn whether Wendy Gramm is a Republican. The simple fact is that she took a $400,000 dive. I can assure that I know crooks and it is people like you and her that permit events like Enron's to happen.

No, the simple fact is that you have concluded, based on no evidence whatsoever, that Wendy Gramm was responsible for what happened at Enron. That's irresponsible on your part and it indicates that you have an agenda that is political.

If it turns out that she was knowingly complicit in a scheme to mislead shareholders, then she should and will be held accountable. I not only don't have a problem with that, but will heartily endorse it. Unlike you, I suspect, I lost several thousand dollars due to the misrepresentations of Enron. If anything, I should be on the warpath for anyone I can blame for this.

But the funny thing is that I think it's more responsible to wait for the facts before I make stupid assertions like you did above. My experience tells me that it is highly unlikely that Gramm was aware of the scam. Perhaps she was. We will find out. But to call her or me a crook based on what you know is juvenile at best.

196 posted on 01/11/2002 2:26:02 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: CrabTree
I'll say it again. You categorically state that she committed a crime without knowing all, or really ANY, of the facts.

You are obsessed with her compensation. That has NOTHING to do with whether a crime was committed, now does it?

Let the investigators do the work, and when they come back with some facts, then we can intelligently discuss what they mean. Until then, your accusations are borderline libelous.

198 posted on 01/11/2002 5:08:17 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: CrabTree
"I can assure that I know crooks and it is people like you and her that permit events like Enron's to happen."

Hey! You maybe oughta cool your jets, just a little. You're comin off a little too self-righteous with your righteous indignation aimed so personally at our superior friend and fellow Freeper, Dog Gone!

I don't push the abuse button, or at least I haven't done it yet, but you better take a valium and apologize! (IMO)

199 posted on 01/11/2002 5:08:55 PM PST by SierraWasp
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To: _Jim
Did Bush have insiders working at S and L's covering for him?

Which Bush brother are you talking about? Don't want to bring up S&L scandal's and the name Bush too much.

200 posted on 01/11/2002 5:21:18 PM PST by AshleyMontagu
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