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Enron is not Bush's Whitewater: It's Worse
CBS Marketwatch ^ | 1/10/02 | David Callaway

Posted on 01/10/2002 7:00:04 AM PST by brbethke

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To: CrabTree
You say you are not a liberal lady LOL
161 posted on 01/10/2002 8:37:29 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: CrabTree
Given your intellectual dishonesty and other apparent lacks, I am sure you will soon be in a federal prison where you can do you own research on how the white collar criminals got there.

Because I ask you to get off your lazy ass and post your evidence (and, no, I'm not going to accept your link unless you learn how to do it properly), I'm intellectually dishonest?

You grouchy old fart. I'd punch you in the nose if I weren't afraid you'd soil your Depends!

162 posted on 01/10/2002 8:37:37 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: CrabTree
The article shows that - directly contrary to your bizarre claims - the judge is telling the plaintiffs that they have not made a case for asset seizure.
164 posted on 01/10/2002 8:43:08 PM PST by spqrzilla9
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To: CrabTree
Clean Air Trust ENVIRONMENT, POLICY ,wackos! might this be your group crab commie?
166 posted on 01/10/2002 8:46:17 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: CrabTree
From a potential conflicts of interest point of view, it makes no difference whether Gramm was a chairperson or not. He still had to consider legislation possibly favorable to Enron.

Do you think it odd that none of the Democrats on the Banking Committee seemed to have a problem with Gramm's wife on Enron's board?

167 posted on 01/10/2002 8:48:33 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: Rustynailww
isn't it time for a special prosecutor ?

The special prosecutor law expired and the Clinton administration, the media and the Democrats in congress did all they could to see that it was not reinstated. There are no more special prosecutors.

The simple fact is for a scandal to influence voters , it has to effect them directly. Thus the clinton scandal of screwing Monica's mouth in the oval office did not bother people because it was not their mouth and not their daughter.

Tons of things can happen and the public does not care as long as it does not effect them directly. You can't even hurt a policitian by saying his economic plan did not work. The Republicans tried that all through the depression years. The Republicans back then were as stupid as the Democrats are today. Franklin Roosevelt tried all sorts of leftist economic schemes. None of them worked. The Republicans were sure that the public would blame FDR for the failure. They did not do so. The Public saw that Roosevelt was trying to fix the economy. The Repbulicans of the era pointed out every day why Roosevelts stuff was not working very well. But the Republicans like Daschle the Democrat only got pubicity for tearing into Roosevelts failure. They did not make a big deal of how they thought the problem should be solved. Back then it only FDR trying to fix the economy. Today the public thinks only Dubya is trying to fix the economy. When the economy is sick, the public always goes with the side proposing a treatment. They reject the side that does not propose a treatment. It is the same with people. When they are sick they will go with the doctor that proposes treatment of the illness, rather than a doctor that offers no treatment. Tearing into the other doctors treatment plans with out a plan of his own, makes the patients mad at the doctor that will not prescribe.

The Public stayed with Roosevelt and the Democrats becuase he was at least trying to do something about the economy, and the Republicans of the 1930s only stood in his way.

That is the same stupid tactic that Daschle and the media are following today. Bush is seen as they guy trying to fix things. Democrats are seen as doing nothing to fix things. Democrats are doing a lot to attack Bush and his plans. That is very counter productive.Clinton was smarter than all of today's Democrats put together.

IT IS THE ECONOMY STUPID!

The guy who is trying to do something about the economy wins. The people who don't have a plan and are seen as only opposing proposed fixes lose.

It works like this. Imaging you are dying of cancer. One doctor says here are some pills I think they have a shot at curing your cancer. The other doctor says, don't take that medicine it will not work. It is bad medicine. Don't take it, it is a rip off. If the cancer patient thinks there is one chance in 10,000 the medicine will work, he or she will take it..as directed. The same goes for voters at the polls.

Daschle does not have a clue.

170 posted on 01/10/2002 9:08:25 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: CrabTree
You do have a problem understanding what your read?...

From the Article.....

Plaintiffs want stock sale proceeds from Oct. 1998 through last November [2001] frozen so their allegations can be investigated further. They also want to prevent any defendants from dissipating or concealing those profits.

Over that time span, [Oct. 1998 to Nov. 2001] Lay sold the most among the defendants, at 1.8 million shares for $101 million. Gramm sold the fewest -- 10,256 shares for $276,912.

Those stock sales could be for from stock acquired from board meetings but not necessarily did it all occur within 2 yrs of going on the Board as you say.

Now your frozen asset thing about to happen..... from the article.....

Oh, and Ronald Reagan isn't a conservative huh.....

Night to you...
171 posted on 01/10/2002 9:08:26 PM PST by deport
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To: sinkspur
You grouchy old fart. I'd punch you in the nose if I weren't afraid you'd soil your Depends!

And this is in keeping with forum guidlines how?

172 posted on 01/10/2002 9:10:01 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Wphile
I don't think (and this is pure supposition on my part) that the energy trading part was flawed

If the White House were involved, they didn't do very well trying to save Enron. Was there an attempted baillout? If so, I missed it. And, of course the White House would consult with the oil industry when there was an energy crisis. Enron is was part of that.

The collapse of oil and gas prices over the past year may have played a large part. Futures trading is not for the faint-hearted.

173 posted on 01/10/2002 9:17:23 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: brbethke
see thats the media trying to create a sandal where one does not exist
175 posted on 01/10/2002 9:32:25 PM PST by GeronL
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To: facedown
I did. I wonder if the little weasel will have the guts to respond.
177 posted on 01/10/2002 9:52:42 PM PST by Skip Ripley
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To: Common Tator
thanks for the reply. will enron stick to bush?
178 posted on 01/11/2002 3:51:09 AM PST by Rustynailww
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To: CrabTree
If you were informed, which will never happen, you would know all of these little facts. But, you are an idiot.

You are truly one of the ugliest posters ever to appear here, and I have a feeling your stay may not be long. I certainly hope it isn't.

But I can't help but laugh at you. You assert that I am biased and probably engaged in criminal activity merely because I have years of experience in these matters.

You, on the other hand, without any experience in these matters, are on a jihad against the wife of a Republican Senator and have already concluded that she should be in prison. Meanwhile, you have repeatedly and unjustifiably insulted just about everyone on this thread. And you would have us believe that you are an unbiased conservative?? LOLOL.

179 posted on 01/11/2002 4:37:20 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Skip Ripley
Not so far - don't expect him to after Rush tore him to pieces nationwide.
180 posted on 01/11/2002 4:38:20 AM PST by facedown
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