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[PleaseReadBeforeJudging] Why Only Catholicism Can Make Protestantism Work: Bouyer on Reformation
Catholic Dossier/ CERC ^ | MARK BRUMLEY

Posted on 01/05/2002 11:55:52 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM

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To: american colleen;CCWoody
You know what? I don't care what religion WM is. I only know him through print and what I know is that he is a good, decent Christian.

Coleen He does not believe in the trinity..do you even know WHAT a Christian is? Read the creed for petes sake..He is a nice guy but he does not belive that God the Father,Son and Holy Spirit are one..He believes you can baptize the dead ..He believes that God the Father has sex in heaven to make new souls and He looks forward to doing the same thing,he believes if you live a good life you too can be a god ..for petes sake girl do a web search on Mormons..nice people but not christians..I can see why it does not bother you the pope kisses the book of a demon god..you do not even know the defination of a Christian...I gave you more credit than that .,I was wrong

1,141 posted on 01/22/2002 8:30:09 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: american colleen;tiki;CCWoody
: Doesn't it make you awful glad that you aren't them? (mom and woody) - they make me want to take a shower and clean off when I am in their presence. Really nice Christians...

LOL..you of couse show your "Christianity " with loving comments like that

We discuss doctrine and scripture and you do personal insults..you have no credibility ..

BTW Woody and I are washed in the Blood of the Lamb...clean......

1,145 posted on 01/22/2002 8:47:22 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Hey, I've read the book of Mormon, I know what they believe but it isn't up to me to judge anyone. I believe as a Catholic, I naturally see it as the the way to Salvation but it isn't up to me to condemn to hell anyone. The only thing I can do is tell people about my religion and try my best to live it.

I haven't read in the Bible where it says 'Love your neighbor as yourself...only if he believes as you do'. If you'll point out the verse, I'll look it up and read it. But I do remember things like "Even evil people love their friends..." "Love your enemies...." Forgive seventy times seventy...." "Turn the other cheek..."

What I see in my Bible is love and forgiveness, over and over again. God extends it to us and we extend it to others through His Grace.

1,146 posted on 01/22/2002 8:51:00 PM PST by tiki
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To: RnMomof7
LOL..you of couse show your "Christianity " with loving comments like that

Oh like you're the one to talk about loving comments.

and guess what, I'm washed in the Blood of the Lamb too. But because I worship Him from and through the Catholic perspective, I'm wrong according to you and so you have to excoriate and insult me and my beliefs.

And you attribute that behavior to what...? Saving my soul? By anger, hatred and insult? Think about it. Pray about it.

1,147 posted on 01/22/2002 8:59:48 PM PST by tiki
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To: tiki
It is up to you to speak the truth or is it ok with you if all your friends burn in hell for eterniity ?Is that kindness? Is that Love? Is that how much Jesus loved you? Greater love hath no man that He lay down His life for a friend..

If you fail to tell them the truth you will be held responsible for their soul

1,148 posted on 01/22/2002 9:04:01 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: tiki
I would like you to tell me what I have ever said to you that was a personal or unkind statement tiki....I told you things you did not want to hear ..but I do not believe I ever called you a name or was unkind to you in spite of the way you spoke to me..
1,149 posted on 01/22/2002 9:06:34 PM PST by RnMomof7
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1,150 posted on 01/22/2002 9:07:00 PM PST by St.Chuck
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To: RnMomof7
Mom, I would truly be frightened if you gave me credit.

I work with a nice guy who is a fundamentalist. I don't agree with almost everything he believes in, but I like him and I don't call him names and I don't disparage his way of loving God. Even though I think he's kooky.

I do know a lot about Mormonism. In fact, I am down at a local Mormon Temple almost every Saturday to do family research. I rent films from them - they go all around the world and film church records (and don't explain why they do that, I know). I just went through church records dating back to 1500 from England - not one of the members has ever been anything but kind to me. Not one of them has tried to convert me and I have been going there for 2 years. They have my address - I have never received anything in the mail from them. I have nothing negative to say about Mormons. I don't care what their practices are. I only know that I do not agree with their religious views, and I expect they feel the same regarding mine.

If you are going to post a definition of a religion, can you not post off of your hatefilled BBF sites? At least give a fair shot and post something less biased.

You profess to love God and you give this aura of trying to bring the waywards back into the true fold of BBF. Do you think you win many souls by being as venom-spewing as you are? I am so turned off by you and several others that are BBF. Because we can't see each other and our mental pictures are formed by words, I honestly see you as looking like Medusa.

I wouldn't be posting if I didn't love debate and have an interest in other religions, but the hatemongering I see by you and several other posters just makes me so happy that I am not one of you. Do you think Jesus spoke the way you do? Do you think Jesus thought the way you do?

You probably think I was kidding when I said you made me feel dirty, I wasn't.

1,151 posted on 01/22/2002 9:12:54 PM PST by american colleen
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To: tiki
And you attribute that behavior to what...? Saving my soul? By anger, hatred and insult?

What did I ever say to you tiki that was "hateful","angry" or a personal "insult?" I would like you to pray about that.

I believe you place too much stress on the works of man..I believe that we are saved by grace....now I loved you enought to tell you that...I know it does not feel like love. but I care about your eternity...I guess more than you care about your friends..

Jesus Christ hung on a cross for YOU tiki..if you were the only one to ever be born He still would have hung there JUST FOR YOU.....He loved you that much......now that is something that should offer you comfort not anger......

I am really not your enemy tiki......God bless ya

1,152 posted on 01/22/2002 9:13:48 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: american colleen
If you do not see any difference between Chrisitanity and Mormonism I guess I will leave you to him.Do you know that the Mormons Baptize all those family members they help you find into their cult..

Go to it WM ya got a live one here..

1,153 posted on 01/22/2002 9:17:04 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Your #1142 and #1143:

Where did you get this stuff, Terry? Why do you fill a Catholic thread with it instead of posting the web address? So much of it is false and poisonous, written so that anyone would conclude "obviously wrong" who relied on it. It isn't just the Catholics that get attacked.

I ask again, why are you posting this? Is my criticism of Woody's aggression so on target (and now I must add, your aggression also) that the only thing you can think of is to attack my faith with lies? You are admitting defeat, not that that was my objective, but if it was, you have done it for me.

1,154 posted on 01/22/2002 9:17:21 PM PST by White Mountain
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To: White Mountain
So point out the incorrect doctrine ..you deceived don until Marlow straightened him out..

You go over what I posted and you tell me exactly what is incorrct ok

1,155 posted on 01/22/2002 9:19:29 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Well, it should be pretty obvious by now that I defend my religion. I also talk about my beliefs with friends and sometimes stranger. I try to live my belief.

As far as anyone burning in hell, I trust GOD to save them, if He chooses to save them through me, I hope I can live up to His choice. As I said: Show me the verse that specifically says that I should hate anyone for their beliefs.

Once again, if you're trying to tell me that you are trying to save my soul by what you post on FR, you should do some praying because I don't see anything in your posts that would draw me closer to Christ, I only see your crowing about how you are saved and others are lost. I only see your smugness about your own Salvation and Bible knowledge and trying to prove a point, rather than real concern for anyone elses Salvation.

If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing If I give away all I have, and, if I deliver my body to be burned but have not love, I gain nothing.

Love is patient and kind; love is not jealous or boastful; it is not arrogant or rude. Love does not insist on its own way it is not irritable or resentful; it does not rejoice at wrong, but rejoices in the right. Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Must I go on?

1,156 posted on 01/22/2002 9:21:49 PM PST by tiki
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To: RnMomof7
Do you believe what you write? You sound like a lunatic.

Guess what! The Mormons don't even know who I am searching for! They never asked! So you are incorrect. They are not baptizing my family. They do their own research and baptize their own ancestors, not mine.

Hello! Where did I write or intimate that I see no difference between Christianity and Mormonism?

1,157 posted on 01/22/2002 9:23:49 PM PST by american colleen
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To: RnMomof7
Your #1153:

Do you know that the Mormons Baptize all those family members they help you find into their cult..
Again, Terry, not true, and you use that attack word "cult" again, which is used against the Catholics and against your own church and has become meaningless until the next Heaven's Gate comes along.
1,158 posted on 01/22/2002 9:25:26 PM PST by White Mountain
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To: tiki
"because I don't see anything in your posts that would draw me closer to Christ, I only see your crowing about how you are saved and others are lost. I only see your smugness about your own Salvation and Bible knowledge and trying to prove a point, rather than real concern for anyone elses Salvation."

I think the exact same thing. Jesus preached humility.

PS I love Mother Teresa and also, I took my kids to Harry Potter and let them read the books!!!!!

1,159 posted on 01/22/2002 9:27:06 PM PST by american colleen
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To: tiki
Well, it should be pretty obvious by now that I defend my religion. I also talk about my beliefs with friends and sometimes stranger. I try to live my belief.

It would be better to defend Jesus Christ from the slander of the cults..

Would you please show me where I was ever unkind to you personally?Where I called you personally dirty as you called me?

Where I Mocked you?

I will not expect a response because the anti protestant rant is always the same..You are nasty ....and cruel ....all the while being personally abusive having no doctrinal defense to the word of God

Just rememebr tiki..that the wolves always come in sheeps clothing..so the ones you least expect offer the greatest spiritual danger to you!

Good night tiki

1,160 posted on 01/22/2002 9:28:26 PM PST by RnMomof7
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