You cribbed that from probably the same place I stole this:
Lex clavatoris designati delenda est
Glad it's only in the American League
Sic semper tyranosaurus!
Posted on 01/02/2002 1:15:38 PM PST by Theresa
They'll take into account my American ancestry, culpability, and ignorance.
She's their queen, not mine. I have no queen, but a living King.
So, all protestants who died before Vatican II went to hell, and those since you are more accepting of? i.e. Not, maybe going to hell?
I suggest you look up the word "culpability." Everything hinges on that.
SD
You cribbed that from probably the same place I stole this:
Lex clavatoris designati delenda est
SD
I liked your article, and generally I agree with it.
However, by printing that article there is a danger that the readers will get the wrong understanding. They will take it to far. They may conclude that the Church basically says that ALL who follow their conscious are saved, they dont really need to follow the Church or anything. This is obviously wrong. Given todays grave misunderstandings on what it means to say "follow your conscious" you can pretty much gurantee there will be more confusion than enlightenment on this issue.
Also, although one theoretically can be saved by not being a full fledged member of the Catholic Church, this doesnt in anyway say they will be saved. The Church offers soo many graces(through sacraments) and forms the conscious so well that one may say that one is very unlikely to be saved outside the Church. THe risks are too great. Even Augustine believed in the "Massa Damnata" which basically means the great majority of people will be damned.
Another problem with publishing this paper, is it fails to notice that following your concscious would lead you to joining the Catholic Church. Hence anybody who doesnt act upon the intuition to investigate the Church, or does not join when they may feel it is true, is directly violating their conscious. So they would not be saved.
In conclusion, the "salvation outside the Church" doctrine is very complicated and not as simple as this article portrays. GIven our culture we are in, and our current presuppositions, publishing that article would lead people to more misunderstandings of Catholic theology than understandings.
You cribbed that from probably the same place I stole this:
Lex clavatoris designati delenda est
Glad it's only in the American League
Sic semper tyranosaurus!
Not for me, thanks. catholics have their "extra-canon" books; which are not recognized by protestants as being inspired writing. Some were added to your canon waaaay late, to drum up support for the practice of issuing indulgences.
Follow the money.
Or did you mean
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est?
Does that mean "not catholic anymore"?
WELCOME ABOARD SD, I'm not either!
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est?
Doesn't it work either way?
SD
WELCOME ABOARD SD, I'm not either!
It's all about culpability.
SD
I'd rather we use your definition. I don't want to part with a hug and a handshake.
Truth cannot be different, for different people. If your truth is not the same as my truth; one of us is wrong.
You and I, as well -- and a veritable HOST of others -- I might add.
I'd rather we use your definition. I don't want to part with a hug and a handshake.
You mean this definition from Trent?
After this Catholic doctrine on justification, which whosoever does not faithfully and firmly accept cannot be justified.
What of it? Those who don't accept our teaching cannot be justified. Does that mean that small children and the feeble can not be justified? No. There are always exceptions for culpability.
SD
"the truth"...there is false truth--generic truth---and top shelf TRUTH---
give me a fresh bottle---throw out the cap and pour me a double!
Die dulci freure
"the truth"...there is false truth--generic truth---and top shelf TRUTH---
give me a fresh bottle---throw out the cap and pour me a double!
veritas semper veritas
I'm not the pot calling the kettle black. We agree that nasty things have been done in the name of God; by a whole passle of denominations.
The "creed" they believed has the same articles of "faith" that binds on Catholic Christians today.
but y'all catholics have them "extra" books that even the early church didn't recognize as inspired.
Boy, I guess Protestants would never do anything corrupt with "money" in your book, would they?
In my Book, EVERY man is totally depraved until God extends grace and they accept Jesus as Lord and Savior. Matters not his religion.
Like that perverted creep FDR and his buddies who imposed the socialist income tax on all of us!
Amen! Like those other perverted creeps, JFK, and WJC.
You GO!
I'll be justified by faith in Jesus, but not faith in the RCC, thank you.
Handshake?
SD
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