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Ali's Remarkable Rise To Be 'The Greatest'
Christian Science Monitor ^ | Craig Savoye

Posted on 12/31/2001 2:24:22 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest

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To: WileyCoyote22
"Listen , I will leave when I want to. Maybe it is you who should go away"

Go away

61 posted on 12/31/2001 8:36:26 PM PST by realpatriot
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Here follows the trend of taking someone who was good for one thing, and idolizing them, as if they were a god. Just because Ali could box, now it means that he was mr. wonderful, an admirable soul, a role model for all young men. It makes no sense. I certainly won't waste $5 on a ticket for this movie.
62 posted on 12/31/2001 8:37:23 PM PST by RobertFrost
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To: WileyCoyote22
My name is breakem and I'm a movieholic!
63 posted on 12/31/2001 8:40:21 PM PST by breakem
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To: VA Advogado
"You don't seem to get along with anyone. Another trait you've passed on to the kid?"

Hmmmm, this is the first time I've come close to being flamed anywhere. How 'bout you? Are you a veteran at this?

At any rate, I have New Year's festivities to attend to. HAPY NEW YEAR!!!!

64 posted on 12/31/2001 8:42:29 PM PST by realpatriot
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To: realpatriot
Wow. Snappy new year to you too. LOL Go to bed and stop drinking.
65 posted on 12/31/2001 8:44:05 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: realpatriot
I admired Casius Clay. I detest Mohommed (take your pick.) This is a movie I will never see.

Ditto. Cassius Clay won a gold medal for his country. Ali was/is an arrogant, bothersome oaf.

69 posted on 12/31/2001 8:51:46 PM PST by stboz
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To: IvecrossedmyRubicon
You're an ugly and hateful SOB.
72 posted on 12/31/2001 9:44:45 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: IvecrossedmyRubicon
'Listen, what you need to do is go in the house, throw a little gasoline on yourself, and light a match.'

What you need to do is take a cold shower. Do you start all your new years in a good mood?
73 posted on 12/31/2001 10:06:38 PM PST by al-andalus
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To: WileyCoyote22
Okay, I get your point. Everyone is entitled to their heroes, and actually, he is pretty cool. :o)
74 posted on 12/31/2001 10:30:36 PM PST by rightwinggardeninggirl
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To: rightwinggardeninggirl
Yeah - he's even worse today. I know he suffers from Parkinson's disease. But there's no doubt when you sustain so many blows to the head, even with boxing gloves it will do some damage. He's but a shadow of his former self.
75 posted on 01/01/2002 6:02:24 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: hoot2
"he was conned by the "muslims"........You are saying he was stupid and easy swayed? Could just as easily been a slick Christian evangelist then eh?
76 posted on 01/01/2002 9:32:29 AM PST by orfisher
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To: medved
I think Rocky Marciano would have clocked Ali very early.
77 posted on 01/01/2002 9:40:51 AM PST by JimVT
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To: sausageseller
"Many have went to battle and some have not come back alive.You have done a great dishonor to these great Americans to make any asertions otherwise".....I happen to be one of those who came back alive buddy so don't give me that crap. We were discussing honesty, which can sometimes be just as admirable as bravery.
78 posted on 01/01/2002 9:43:00 AM PST by orfisher
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To: JimVT
My own money would be on Joe Louis in any sort of a century's best. Louis held the heavyweight title for about a dozen years and that's never been done before or since. Louis had at least Ali's handspeed and he had serious punching ability and the kinds of combinations he threw ended in punches which broke people.

Marciano is a question mark in my estimation. Nobody ever did anything but lose money betting against him, but he might not really be big enough for today's heavyweight division, particularly given the way he fought. When you make a career out of beating up people bigger than you, the skills really need to be superior; you can't do it all on heart and conditioning.

79 posted on 01/01/2002 10:41:06 AM PST by medved
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To: orfisher
First off thank you for your service to our great nation. I was pointing out that being honest is not the word to describe Ali. The laws of our land dictated that he should have been drafted. He chose to resist. That was his choice. But lets be clear he did not try to get the laws changed, he chose to circumvent them. Cheating does not equal being honest about anything. Remeber when Dan Rather said Clinton was an honest man. Did you really belive that?
80 posted on 01/01/2002 12:58:48 PM PST by sausageseller
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