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Was Jesus A Liberal?
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| December 26, 2001
| Henry Makow Ph.D.
Posted on 12/26/2001 4:35:52 PM PST by Starmaker
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To: Starmaker
"Liberal" and "Conservative" are meaningless terms in the historical context of Christ's mission and the political and religious situation in Palestine at the time. These left-wing revisionists make me sick.
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12/27/2001 5:15:25 AM PST
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ZULU
To: The Shootist
Webster's: radical 3. Of or pertaining to the root or foundation; esential;basic.
To: workamania
Lenin said that, not Jesus.
To: Vince Ferrer
"For what purpose would they twist his words?" For whichever purpose suited them at the time. The bible has been used and quoted for many years, by many men to justify their political viewpoint. As much as I think Jesus would dislike the anti-religion view of the communist regimes around the world, I also think he would find distasteful the theocratic and capitalistic regimes, who use his name to further propegate themselves.
To: Liberty Ship
Liberals, Socialists and Communists are evil?? They may be wrong, misguided or uninformed, but to call someone evil because they are a not a capitalist nor a conservative is a bit of a stretch. There are plenty of regimes around the world, some of which our government supported, that were much worse in the human rights arena than some leftist regimes were.
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To: constitutiongirl
actually, St. Paul said it.
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12/27/2001 6:17:52 AM PST
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Woahhs
To: ProudGenXLibertarian
Those regimes are evil, too. As are Liberals, Communists, and Socialists.
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To: Tall_Texan
"Some of the things he commanded, particularly of his followers, were highly socialistic (giving all your money to the poor or to the church, to store up your treasures in Heaven rather than on Earth, to choose between God and riches, etc.)" Excuse me?
Please stop misrepresenting God and Christianity.
To: Tall_Texan
I don't think it's clear cut to portray Jesus as either a liberal or a conservative. Some of the things he commanded, particularly of his followers, were highly socialistic (giving all your money to the poor or to the church, to store up your treasures in Heaven rather than on Earth, to choose between God and riches, etc.) The Catholics, in particular, lean towards this type of lifestyle.
Big difference between commanding personal charity and government redistributionist schemes. Big, huge difference, and you should know better.
To: Matchett-PI
**Please stop misrepresenting God and Christianity.**
Why? My bible has the Gospel according to Matthew and the Book of Acts. Maybe yours does too. Go read it.
To: Tall_Texan
Well, Jesus lived at home till he was thirty, that sounds like my liberal cousin.....
To: Conservative til I die
**Big difference between commanding personal charity and government redistributionist schemes. Big, huge difference, and you should know better.**
I do. That's why I used "socialistic" with a little "s" rather than Socialistic. He teaches the idealism of socialism (taking all one's resources and giving them to the group that those in need will not lack), not the government style of Socialism.
Actually, the early Christians in Acts behaved more like a commune, but if I'd said the teachings were communistic, you'd have REALLY had trouble understanding.
And if THAT blows your mind, read Acts 5 and find out what happened to the guy who held something back for himself...
To: dubyaismypresident
LOL! And don't you know the women in the family kept trying to find somebody nice for Him to marry...
To: Starmaker
This could be maddening, but not on brief reflection.
Look at Bll Maher's audience.
Parasites, most of them.
And who would appeal to such a group?
Why a bigger brainless parasite.
I would guess that most of those who are so willing to share their wealth have never made any of it.
To: Vince Ferrer
For what purpose would they twist his words? There are as many different reasons as there are individuals.
Just look at this site. Why do so many twist historical facts?
To: BillinDenver
If this is truly your view of consevratism, I wonder what interested you to visit and become a member of a CONSERVATIVE news forum.
I agree with your general assertion regarding Jesus and how He would be perceived politically today but you do a great mischaracterization to think conservatives just want to shoot people, put them in jail and keep all the money. That's what brainwashed LIBERALS think of us. Is that what YOU think?
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To: BillinDenver
Around here, Attila the Hun might be considered too liberal by some people (or do you not notice all the bellyaching about GWB that goes on here?).
It's a straw man to say either a)give the thief your shirt or b)shoot him. I don't own a gun, so what am I to do? I would want the person to be arrested or at least to give back what they stole. Now if the crook brandished a weapon in the commission of a robbery, I might feel justified in using violence to stop him, particularly if I thought someone's life was in danger. The options are more plentiful than what you state.
It is stereotypical to portray conservatives as greedy, violent, judgemental and uneducated because the liberal media does such a thorough job of painting conservatives (and particularly Christian conservatives) in this light. The typical Republican has more education than the typical Democrat (according to exit polls) and I'll bet they are more generous with their money too since they don't believe it's the government's job to take it and give it elsewhere. And are the places with the highest rates of gun violence typically ones that vote Republican or Democrat?
And I've never met anyone more judgemental than the people who berate others for "being judgemental". They are typically the most intolerant and insufferable folks imaginable.
But, at least you are honest in your liberalism so I can now accept your statements in context. Thanks for clarifying.
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