Support for Arabs plummets in America, opinion poll finds

Ha'aretz ^ | Dec. 26, 2001 | Nitzan Horowitz

[pgkdan]

Zogby blamed a "steady diet of anti-Arab information" for the swing in public opinion, saying that "those who are seeking to disrupt and discredit the relationship are working overtime."

No Mr Zogby...I think a bunch of maniac Arabs flying airliners full of men women and children into occupied bldgs full of innocent civilian men, women and children...while other arab maniacs all over the world danced in the street at the news of their demise is the reason for this swing in public opinion.

[Publius6961]

There's the problem. Zogby shows he's just a lefty concerned with "representation" of and "perception" about other nations, rather than facts.
Actually the average American is more informed about the mid-east than any "western" people I've met. Note that "61 percent of respondents saying that the Israelis and Palestinians were equally to blame", certainly a snetiment one doesn't find much at FR.

Can't seem to make up your mind?
61% of respondents have succumbed to Muslim/Arabprop and combined it with the pathetic combination of PC and ignorance.

If anything, this story demonstrates that the "average American" is profoundly ignorant, but never hesitant to voice his opinion.

[Shermy]

RobRoy: LOL! But 61%? That's high. I remember people not politically inclined talking about the Saudis first when Prince Talal made his "reexamine your ties to Israel" deflection. It was amazing that in the media they tried to turn this into just some intemperate but "based in truth" statement. But regular people I knew often commented on the obvious hypocrisy of the statement--e.g. "Doesn't Osama hate the Prince and his government the most? What is he reexamining?" But the PC media, unlike common sensical people, is more concerned with constructing foreign problems as having no internal or historical context unless it can be fashioned to criticize America.

[Joe Boucher]

Dear sir or madam, you are brilliant. police their own. Something many groups should be looking into doing.

[Publius6961]

Somehow I'm supposed to believe that some goat herder in Bumfuq, Egypt has a better grasp on the world order than I do.

Well, that's one way to look at it.

Of course I believe that using the invidiousness tool among the rest of the world's ignorant works like a charm.
That's why Communism survived almost a hundred years.
Ignorance and poverty does rule most of the world, so yes, they do have a firmer grasp of the "current world order".

[Shermy]

Can't seem to make up your mind? 61% of respondents have succumbed to Muslim/Arabprop and combined it with the pathetic combination of PC and ignorance

I mean, at FR, there are many anti-Israel disruptors and Israel can do no wrong posters. The latter reveal its allegiances, affinities, or tastes. The former, especially lefty disruptors, reveal none because they would have to confront that their pseudo-intellectual obsessions are founded in either nihilism or reactionary anti-Americanism--they are faithless in any form. Israel isn't perfect, who is? But I agree with you ~98% that most anti-Israel statements are Arabprop and reactionary lefty adversarialism.

[Publius6961]

The pan-arabist cabal between Saudis, Yemenis, Moroccans and Arab Expatriots in Afghanistan among others was exposed and their failure to act against it in advance revealed them to be weak minded & weak willed, and very dangerous.

You are being way too kind.
I believe they were complicit.

[Lent]

I think you're right for the most part. They are definitely westernized, so whether Pan Arab Islamic, 'Aryan", neo-nazi, or leftist ideologically (the anti-war.com group), they share a common cause as you stated.

When I note "Pan Arab Islamic" by the way, I mean Muslims who have bought into the Arab Nationalism ideology which inevitably is a blame the west and "zionism" belief. Muslims who have divested themselves of this insidious ideology (a minority comparatively) are for the most part not inclined to engage in this type of anti-western and "zionist" rhetoric. This is characteristic of the Turks for example, who, under the leadership of Ataturk, knew that Arab Nationalism combined with Islam was a regressive force.

[Joe Boucher]

I'd like to see an honest poll of Afganistan locals and how they feel about arabs. Afganis are not arab and the arabs they catch that have been fighting for al queda have been sumarily shot then tortured. Just what I think we whould do to them.

[savedbygrace]

Amazing that an Opinion Pollster doesn't understand the difference between an opinion and an action.

There may well be large numbers of Americans with an unfavorable opinion of Arabs, but there are large numbers of Arabs and other Muslims who have taken unfavorable (and that's a charitible categorization) actions that are anti-American.

There's is a world of difference, and thousands of dead Americans, between these two.

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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[Publius6961]

. But the Israeli first crowd will make sure the Arabs are turned into beasts.

No, we non-Jews who feel passionately about Israel's right to exist simply acknowledge reality, and we make sure that the fact that they act like beasts does not go unnoticed.

[Lent]

No, we non-Jews who feel passionately about Israel's right to exist simply acknowledge reality, and we make sure that the fact that they act like beasts does not go unnoticed.

Btttt. Well said.

[xJones]

This is clearly a sarcastic statement. The one on post #26 I still fail to see the sarcasm.

I can't help you over the hurdle, but everyone else seemed to understand. I'll say it plainly for you:

THE ISLAMIC LEADERS DO NOT CONDEMN TERRORISM DONE IN THE NAME OF ALLAH AND THEREBY THEY CONDONE IT. WE ARE IN TROUBLE UNTIL THIS IS STOPPED.

BTW, don't bother me again, I don't like using caps.

[cardinal4]

Zogby blamed a "steady diet of anti-Arab information" Like the news. ML/NJ

How about the facts?

[Publius6961]

Most news organizations are "working overtime" to cast Arabs and Muslims in as positive a light as possible.

This makes one wonder what will happen if the time ever comes to choose sides for the sake of survival.
Will these people be remembered for their contribution to the problem?

[TopDog2]

Ack! I was quoting someone else there!

[BenR2]

No Mr Zogby...I think a bunch of maniac Arabs flying airliners full of men women and children into occupied bldgs full of innocent civilian men, women and children...while other arab maniacs all over the world danced in the street at the news of their demise is the reason for this swing in public opinion.

Methinks that thou has just hit one out of the park with this post. Home RUN!

(Some people just need things spelled out for them, I guess. And you seem to be a good speller!)

[Publius6961]

But I agree with you ~98% that most anti-Israel statements are Arabprop and reactionary lefty adversarialism.

I am happy to hear at least the suggestion that doing so may not make me an Israeli firster.
But the sadness kicks in when I realize how much of the Muslim/Arabprop is taken at face value, and what that says for our fellow Americans.

[pgkdan]

Thanks. Seems so patently obvious, doesn't it?