Posted on 12/25/2001 12:06:25 PM PST by Pericles
The flags in the last image (rally for "America and Israel Against Terrorism," NYC Dec. 2, 2001) are designed to fit together like this:
You don't suppose.....? Nah.................
The Celts, 5 MILLION + of them, passed through Turkey and the area around the Black Sea and the Caucasus mountains, headed north and westward. They were not the seed stock of those regions.
Agreed. Current thinking is more like the Celts are from all 10 of the "Lost Tribes of Israel". Undoubtedly there were some LostTribe/Celts who "fell by the wayside" during this massive migration, but they are not the primary rootstalk of any of the nations in the region.
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Disregarding the nonsense about these people being "barbarians" (compared to what, the bloody ROMANS?), the author does a good job of placing some Celts in the region west of the Caucasus mountains, quite far east and south of central Europe, but not as far east as others have placed them even earlier BC, in Northern Iraq. I would have felt better about the article if the author had not diverted into claiming that beheading ones enemies is a sign of "ritual sacrifice".
Defining Celts as "politically and socially primitive barbarians" is the claptrap of Roman and Greek historians, not exactly independent observers. Then he conceded, about these Celts "...can hardly be attributed to a marginal, and politically, socially and economically unsophisticated people." ... "The fact that their politics survived to be incorporated into the Roman empire would indicate the existence of highly developed social structures bound together by shared value systems."
The author fell into the mindless copying trap of having the Celts wandering from West to East. If he evaluated their "wanderings" from East to West he would demonstrate a more insightful understanding the topic.
Hmmm... Where do you stand on the Pagan Romans? The pagan Vikings?? The other European Pagans the Vikings eliminated???
This article is full of assumptions.
I suspect you are right. The center of the Celts had moved far north and west by that time, vacating the lands to the east and south from whence they came over the prior thousand years.
I thought the Druids were in England before the celts came to England?
Celts, Culdees, and the First Christian Church
William H. Hunter, MD
Two of my Sons are very interested in the history of the Christian Church. Sam is deep into the Orthodox Church and its history, and will write me long letters about this. John Mark is an Episcopal lay minister, a college professor of multi-imaging and computers, and has been known to give lectures over the nation on Christian imaging. These two have kept me informed on the earliest history of the church going back to the first century. Much of which doesnt seem to me to be generally known.
Then one of my readers over in Pendleton, Nell Reeves, wrote me this intriguing letter. She said, more or less, Since you are always writing about the Celts, how about taking a look at these four books: Stonehenge and Druidism, Jacobs Pillar, The Traditions of Glastonbuty, all by E. Raymond Capt, and Celt, Druid and Culdee by Isabel Hill Elder, and give me an opinion.
My first thought was, Dear lady, you just dont know how far Im already behind in my reading and how much I have already served up on my plate. Itll be the year 2005 before I can get around to reading these four books.
But let me tell you, Nell Reeves may be 80 years old, but she is one sharp lady. I made the mistake of just glancing at a few lines in one of these books, and now Im on my third reading of all four. For goodness sake, its not like Im not practicing medicine any more; now, Nell has played hell with my reading schedule the entire year.
These are the stories of the first Christian Church which wasnt in Rome or Jerusalem, but in Britain in the first century, and of the great uncle of Jesus, Joseph of Arimathea and his tin mines in Cornwallof the Culdees who left Palestine after the crucifixion of Jesus.
While all of the above was beginning to gel in my mind, I happened to be talking to Dr. James Miller one day in the clinic. Jim is professor of geography at Clemson University and one of the brightest persons of general knowledge that Ive ever known.
I asked him, Jim, you are widely read, do you know anything of the first Christian Church in Britain in the first century. Without a pause he answered, Oh, yes, that has to do with Joseph and those that followed him to Glastonbury in Britain, the early church and all that.
There are biblical authorities who believe that Jesus 18 silent years may have been spent with his Uncle Joseph Arimathea near his tin mines in Britain. Heretofore I had always thought Jesus may have spent those years in Persia, or perhaps Medea from whence the wise men came.
In this regard while reading from the gospel of Luke, 4:16-22, when Jesus first spoke in the synagogue, they said, is not this Josephs son? It is as if they are trying to place him, herein the scriptures imply that these silent years were not spent in Palestine.In this regard while reading from the gospel of Luke, 4:16-22, when Jesus first spoke in the synagogue, they said, is not this Josephs son? It is as if they are trying to place him, herein the scriptures imply that these silent years were not spent in Palestine. In this regard while reading from the gospel of Luke, 4:16-22, when Jesus first spoke in the synagogue, they said, is not this Josephs son? It is as if they are trying to place him, herein the scriptures imply that these silent years were not spent in Palestine.
According to Raymond Capt the first recruits of the Culdees in Britain were the Druids. These Culdees he considers the Judean refugees. Writers over the ages have noted the remarkable similarity between Druidism and Christianity. For instance prior to the introduction of Christianity to Britain, the Druids referred to their supreme god as distributor, governor, the wonderful, the ancient of days, all terms of Old Testament origins.
Also the coming of Joseph of Arimethea and his companions to Britain shortly after the Resurrection is found in many sources. Gildas Gadonicus writing near the end of Tiberius Caesars reign, circa A.D. 37, only four years after the Resurrection, that Britain received the holy precepts of Christ. Of interest, this during the time that Saul of Tarsus was persecuting Christians.
The Tri-State Celtic Society is meeting in the Anderson Library on McDuffie Street, November 20, Tuesday, at 7:30 pm. Ive been asked to speak and have been told the public is welcomed. The talk will be on the Celts, Culdees, Druids and the earliest Christian Church. Therein I hope to be able to expand somewhat on the information in this column.
One can deplore the Paganism without deploring the people. I'm glad for the decendents of the Celts that they eventually accepted Christianity. I'll say the same for the decendents of the Romans, the Vikings, the Greeks, etc. My point is that I find it disturbing that people are now glorifying the Celts while ignoring the evils, such as human sacrifice. You see the same thing happening with the Aztecs. The Aztecs were a force of sheer evil, particularly in their latter years. I have no patience for those who attempt to refurbish their image and tell me what a great culture they were. The same goes for the Celts.
Makes sense to me.
The Druids were actually Celts. It is easy to get confused because of the nearsighted way much of Academia has chosen to narrowly define "Celt". In reality, the Celtic tribes were HUGE, and DIVERSE by the time of Christ. They constituted A MASSIVE group of European humanity, not just scraggly little tribes located here and there, as in Wales, or Scotland, or Ireland, or Cornwall, or Brittany. Much academic study has been so narrowly focused it has literally missed the forest for the trees.
As has been stated by others, the Celts were literally the "rootstalk" of Europe, from Spain to Scandinavia, and most of Northern Europe. They "passed through" many other countries to the east, on their WESTWARD trek from the area of the Caucasus mountains.
Permit me to add my favorite book by Dr. Capt. His Missing Links Discovered In Assyrian Tablets is the finest primer on Ancient History in general, and of the Lost Tribes of Israel in particular that I have found anywhere. It makes ancient history come to life. Highly recommended. (See my Profile for more details...)
Is not the 'Gordion Knot' similar to the 'Celtic Knotwork' designs? In Celtic design, the knots intertwine each thing to everything else--a philosophical construct.
Could the Gordion Knot also be such a construct?
I'm a Sutherland, not a Gordon, but Bydand Forever! anyhow...
Didn't the Spanish Armada have an impact in creating the 'Black Irish' in 1588?
I'm sure the Spaniards were less than 100,000.
How many Spaniards ever actually made it to the New World to create a Spanish speaking continent? Maybe 300,000?
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