Green Global Tribunals on the Way

Tell it to Michael New. Tell it to the the American public when the WHO denied the US PERMISSION to vaccinate for smallpox. Tell it to the farmers and ranchers who are having their land stolen by agencies enforcing UN treaties that aren't even ratified. Why do those agencies belong to the IUCN? What is a Polish IUCN lawyer doing writing policy papers on how to control land use in the US using Section 303(d) of the Clean Water Act? Why was the IUCN exempted from all civil liability by President Clinton? Tell it to the parents who are having the terms of the Rights of the Child forced down their throats by a complicit NEA. Why does the Secretary of What are UN bureaucrats doing on our borders demanding care of migrants and why is that migration being treated as a universal right? Treasury get his paycheck from the IMF? Why do American soldiers return to their families in coffins draped with UN flags? Why are so many State and local governments adopting Sustainable Development per the Agenda 21?

Simply because you do not understand how global governance works does not mean that it isn't happening.

To: Carry_Okie

Everything you mentioned occurred because American leaders both State and Federal made the decision. We have far too many American politicians who are in agreement with their UN counterparts but that is not the same thing as the UN dictating American policy. To waste you time and effort fighting the UN is to ignore and excuse our own worthless Politicians. If you want to make a difference work to improve American leadership and they will have no problem ignoring the Joke that is the UN.

Everything you mentioned occurred because American leaders both State and Federal made the decision.

True. Cordell Hull was a perfect example. Some decisions approach irreversibility. Whose interests did he represent?

We have far too many American politicians who are in agreement with their UN counterparts but that is not the same thing as the UN dictating American policy.

Here we differ, if only because of the technical origins of that policy. Much of it comes from Switzerland.

To waste you time and effort fighting the UN is to ignore and excuse our own worthless Politicians.

I think you underestimate the power of coercion wielded at a Treasury auction.

If you want to make a difference work to improve American leadership and they will have no problem ignoring the Joke that is the UN.

We agree about that too (the UN being a bad joke), but unfortunately the joke is on you. It is that bad and it will get worse unless some not insignificant political groups learn to take a more constructive path. Too many American interests are tied up in making a fat and predictable profit using the UN, even if it is against American interests. Makes a big difference at campaign time. The taxes are in place to dispense the favors, the precedents are established in the courts, and just one more Democrap President could stick a fork in us. I don't think you would be so glib were Algore President now. How close was that?

I think you are engaged in wishful thinking. We have too many entrenched and growing interests in this country that intend to either profit or subsist by Gobble Grubbaimint. The schools are educating children as Citizens of the Earth as are Girl Scouts, various churches, and civic organizations. You are ignoring the threat in order to pretend that the Constitution is in effect. I do the same, but I don't pretend that there will be some sort of popular uprising to restore our system of government. I have other plans to turn this around.

Everything you mentioned occurred because American leaders both State and Federal made the decision. We have far too many American politicians who are in agreement with their UN counterparts but that is not the same thing as the UN dictating American policy.
you're not saying anything we don't already know... but when you put it that way, my gosh... it sounds like a conspiracy. But I'm sure you didn't mean that since you refered to such things as "whacko", "discredited" and far too "numerous" for your liking.

Seriously though, it sounds as if you know precisely what is going on, so your eagerness to throw others who fight for soveriegnty to thw wolves is even more curious - not rare mind you, but curious.

I looked into JBS when someone recommended them as a source for info on the OKC bombing. I found General Parton's insinuation that members of our Government planted demolition charges on specific columns in the Federal Building in order to aid the damage caused by the truck bomb; to be unrealistic and a danger to the continued consent of the governed necessary to keep our country together. To make insinuations like that without strong evidence only tends to justify in the mind of a future Timothy Mcviegh more terrorist attacks. Also it diminishes the credibility of the evidence of possible Middle Eastern connections in the bombing because once your credibility in one area is challenged the rest of you credibility is suspect. I have had people try to tie my arguments together with JBS arguments and then discredit JBS and me by implication.

Yes. IMHO Huber doesn't propose anything capable of replacing civic environmental management.

When confronted with the eco-lobby, too many conservatives (and libertarians) fall back on the Teddy Roosevelt model of "conservation" as if he was doing anything different than we are today. Roosevelt and Congress nationalized land to please the railroad companies when he proposed Yellowstone, probably the first case of state-subsidized eco-tourism. What he really created was a State monopoly that prevented anyone from going into the park business in competition with government. He thus disinvested the entire outdoor recreation industry. People just don't see it, just like they don't recognize the UN in our midst.

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