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Early Opinion Polls Look Bad for Gore [NYT, USA Today, CNN, Gallup, FOX, Bloomberg]
The NY Times - Political Round-up / Politics Section | Dec. 23, 2001 | NYT staff

Posted on 12/23/2001 1:47:52 PM PST by summer

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To: Dan from Michigan
Who else is down South?

Siegelman (Gov-D-AL) has to run for re-election in 2002. He could get beat by the right candidate-- AL was 56-42 Bush in 2000 and 50-43 Dole in 1996. He is out as Pres candidate and might lose Gov. as well.

I am not saying you are wrong that Barnes might be the Dem Prez nominee in 2004 when all said and done. BUT if so, it will be as the sacrificial lamb. Plus, he's got to run for Governor again in 2004 and might not be able to handle both duties. Do the DEMs want to give up GA governorship?

81 posted on 12/23/2001 7:10:36 PM PST by RobFromGa
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To: Dan from Michigan
The dems aren't going to run to win the WH in 2004. The war on terrorism will not be over yet and there is nobody in the dem party who would take that on. They'll wait until all danger is over before they take a serious run. They will try to make sure they own the house and senate though and will try to make Bush's second term miserable. Like Reagan's second term, they won't succeed.
82 posted on 12/23/2001 7:24:44 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: marajade
Gore almost won with only the very liberal states in the union.
83 posted on 12/23/2001 7:35:06 PM PST by FrogMom
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To: Sonny M
"little-man Tommy" Daschle is going to be running scared by 2004, after the Jr. Senator from SD Tim Johnson loses his seat in 2002 to John Thune (run-John-run). And, once Daschle is the Minority Leader again after 2002 he will be in no strong position to launch a run.

Daschle won his re-election in the 1998 general election with 162,000 votes to his opponents 95,000 votes. This is a small man from a small place who thinks he speaks for America. If there was ever a chance for a 'celebrity' candidate to swoop in, move to SD, and run for Senator (ala the Hildabeast), this is the place. Calling Rush Limbaugh, do you want to be a Senator?-- Move to SD, it's close to the Mayo Clinic as well.

84 posted on 12/23/2001 7:35:27 PM PST by RobFromGa
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To: summer
>>>>>Re your post #48 -- Thanks for that link. So, Dukakis won ten states, plus DC. Gosh, I really thought he did a lot worse than that>>>>>

Winning only 10 states out of 50 is not exactally what I would call a very good showing. I'd say he got his butt kicked.

85 posted on 12/23/2001 10:13:28 PM PST by Kath
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To: JoeSchem
>>>>>At least this time the Little General can't run as a spoiler. Hillary will have to run on her own charm. >>>>>

What Charm??????????

86 posted on 12/23/2001 10:15:21 PM PST by Kath
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To: Kath
Yes, I know; see my post #61. :)
87 posted on 12/24/2001 12:59:52 AM PST by summer
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To: Dan from Michigan
I think your post #80 presents an interesting choice for Dems, and one they really blew off for the VP slot in 2000, but shouldn't have.
88 posted on 12/24/2001 1:01:10 AM PST by summer
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To: thucydides
I agree with your post #73 -- I don't think there will be a Dem in the White House for a very long time, for the reasons you gave.
89 posted on 12/24/2001 1:02:32 AM PST by summer
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To: Scorpio
Meanwhile, the only sizeable groups that voted a majority for the GOP were White males and Protestant Christians. These two groups are shrinking in size proportionately every year and are being diluted in the Electoral College due to major demographic shifts (such as Florida).

This is not what happened in FL in Nov. 2000. GW actually won two key demographic groups down here, seniors and women. I think the Dems are in far more trouble than the GOP, since Dems did not win these two groups in a state like FL.
90 posted on 12/24/2001 1:04:58 AM PST by summer
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To: summer

Dump Osama bin Dasshole


91 posted on 12/24/2001 1:16:30 AM PST by The Wizard
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To: DNA Rules; Torie
Re: Kerry --

At DU, they are saying MA Sen. John Kerry's negatives include his habit of hitting on married women -- looks like another Clinton White House in the making. LOL...

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Dec-24-01, 01:08 AM (ET)

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44. "Kerry hit on married women ..."
Kerry was hitting on married women who didn't want to be hit on. Someone who I know personally told me - but I'll never say who. But it could become an issue.

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92 posted on 12/24/2001 1:28:08 AM PST by summer
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To: summer
Gore? Gore who? Never heard of him. Is he an unemployeed thief?
93 posted on 12/24/2001 2:54:55 AM PST by Joe Boucher
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To: Joe Boucher
Gore? Gore who? Never heard of him. Is he an unemployeed thief?

I really think Al Gore has already had his last run for office.
94 posted on 12/24/2001 3:25:10 AM PST by summer
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To: summer
I can't think of who else has a military background, off the top of my head.

Try John McCain. The mutant is a RINO anyway.

95 posted on 12/24/2001 4:04:35 AM PST by jslade
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To: jslade, Dan from Michigan
Re: your above post. That's true -- though I can't see him actually running on the Dem ticket. Can you, Dan?
96 posted on 12/24/2001 4:19:08 AM PST by summer
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To: summer
McCain I expect to try again in the primary. He has more power as a GOPer instead of a dem.

If he switches in 2002, I can see him trying, but I don't think he can win the dem primary either. He's just not trusted.

97 posted on 12/24/2001 8:53:29 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
Yep, I think you summed up that one well. Thanks. And, Merry Christmas, Dan! :)
98 posted on 12/24/2001 8:56:47 AM PST by summer
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To: Dan from Michigan
BTW, Dan, FYI, see my post #92, on John Kerry's bad habit, as reported by someone at DU. LOL...
99 posted on 12/24/2001 8:57:37 AM PST by summer
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To: summer
If Kerry isn't squeaky clean, I don't think he can do it. He'll make it close, but not close enough.

Merry Christmas to you as well.

100 posted on 12/24/2001 9:03:37 AM PST by Dan from Michigan
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