REAL MEN and PATRIOTISM: Where They've Been, Why They're Back

Toogood Reports ^ | Thursday, December 20, 2001 | Isaiah Flair

[anniegetyourgun]

[exmarine]

Real men may be on a comeback but much damage has been done. One problem is that our "real military men" have to train with women - thanks to Clinton and his feminist cronies. Why kind of nation sends their mothers and daughters into combat? A stupid one.

[exmarine]

The United States of America is the last, best hope of civilization on Earth.

This is laughable. The United States is a waning power, and our society has some very very serious problems that, if not checked, will be the downfall of the nation. Simply put, moral awfulness and a corrupt government will destroy us. THE LAST BEST HOPE OF CIVILIZATION IS JESUS CHRIST. America is no one's savior.

[Irene Adler]

I agree wholeheartedly with your comment and wish that co-ed training in the military would end (I actually have some faint hopes that that just might happen as a result of the necessity for a genuine, long-term military effort over the next several years).

As a gal, I have finally come to the realization that most young men need a chance to be heroes. I have no sons (only daughters) and had no brothers (only sisters) so didn't come by this knowledge naturally. Even my dad, the most mild-mannered of men, told me once how he made a free-throw at the end of a HS basketball game and won the game for his team, a small event in the great scheme of things, but it just may have been his heroic moment (he never served in the military).

Society needs to provide young men with the chance to test themselves against adversity and to take genuinely noble and heroic actions.

Our PC-feminist society forgot that, and it's a shame (it has proven very harmful to this country in lots of ways). Perhaps, the concept of true heroism will actually be revived, and will also remain, due to recent and future events involving our military. As a society, we simply have to quit raising Bill Clintons (and Hillary Clintons, too, for that matter).

[Twodees]

You nailed it with both posts.

[exmarine]

Thank you for your very intelligent post. You have good discernment.

[VOA]

The United States is a waning power, and our society has some very very serious
problems that, if not checked, will be the downfall of the nation.

Agreed.
But the events since 9-11 have heartened me...and show potential for that
"new birth of freedom".
We skated periously close to the precipice when we almost got "President Albert Gore"
last year.
Hopefully the Providence that gave us "President George W. Bush" will keep us
headed in the right direction.
But the work involved to assure this "sea-change" in the right direction is daunting.

[philman_36]

The American Flag represents a respect for innocent life, democracy, free speech, honor, and appreciation for those who have died to protect those things.
The American flag represents the thirteen colonies, represented by the red and white stripes and the fifty States by the union of blue...and to the R-e-p-u-b-l-i-c for which it stands for. It is, among other things, a symbol of unity.
Some other representations in there but why bother? This jerk doesn't even know what a Republic is. He thinks he lives in a damned democracy, why should I think that he knows what the flag represents?

[philman_36]

This is the greatest country in the world, and we should be proud to acknowledge it 365 days a year.
BTW Isaiah Flair...n-a-t-i-o-n.

[philman_36]

Do you see what I mean?

[GOPJ]

bump

[philman_36]

Consider this in the light of the UN.
Why does the US only have one vote? Because it is a "country", not a nation.
When folks realize that we should have one vote for every State in the Union, instead of just one vote for the "country"...well, you get the picture.
Isn't the false picture prettier and easier to deal with?

[ScreamingFist]

Nice pic. Are you the one holding the ladder or are you hanging the flag?

[iranger]

"This is laughable. The United States is a waning power, and our society has some very very serious problems that, if not checked, will be the downfall of the nation. Simply put, moral awfulness and a corrupt government will destroy us."

Boy, I think I'm gonna slit my wrists. I'm still partial to the Ronald Reagan "shining city on the hill" optimism. I'm not gonna let you doomsayers get me down. That would be UNAMERICAN.

[HangFire]

Good Read Ping;-)

[exmarine]

He thinks he lives in a damned democracy, why should I think that he knows what the flag represents?

Good one! Please note that ALL LIBERALS call our nation a "democracy" - they would like it to be a democracy because then the people in the third world anti-American cities of NY, Los Angeles, Chicago, Miami, and Boston would decide the elections. The founders called this "tyranny of the majority."

[exmarine]

I'm not gonna let you doomsayers get me down. That would be UNAMERICAN.

I understand friend. Just be careful that you don't let your optimism turn into denial of reality. One must acknowledge reality before one can deal with it.

[philman_36]

The founders called this "tyranny of the majority."
I call it male bovine dung too!

[anniegetyourgun]

Neither - but it's a great piece of Americana, eh?