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[MA] Landowners Take On State
The Sierra Times ^ | 6 December, 2001 | Boston Globe via Sierra Times

Posted on 12/20/2001 3:20:36 AM PST by brityank

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To: editor-surveyor
Nobody has a right to encumber the property of another so that they can use it to further their own enjoyment.

True, true. Of course, these developments often impose significant costs -- monetary and otherwise -- on others. As a result, those affected have every right to seek whatever encumbrances are necessary to minimize those costs.

61 posted on 12/20/2001 1:41:38 PM PST by r9etb
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To: Sabertooth
i'll say one thing:

one more home gets put up next to me and i lose my view of mt. rainier!
now that effing sucks!

62 posted on 12/20/2001 1:46:30 PM PST by rockfish59
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To: editor-surveyor
Thanks for the Ping
63 posted on 12/20/2001 2:03:19 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: connectthedots; Aquinasfan
Af -- meet CtD.

Maybe you (Af) ought to visit the county records and do a little digging.

There is more truth than you think to the eco-terrorists position. I recall seeing a story about a luxury retreat built in one of the western preserves that had been made off-limits to Citizens; seems you could only get there by helicopter, and they used it as a 'premium' to award their backers.

64 posted on 12/20/2001 2:13:19 PM PST by brityank
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To: brityank
Any 10 people can nominate an area for ACEC designation by showing the land has four of 11 characteristics

Sounds like it's very easy to get the designation. Did someone see a lynx?

65 posted on 12/20/2001 2:17:30 PM PST by Flyer
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To: editor-surveyor
bump.
66 posted on 12/20/2001 3:53:19 PM PST by ken21
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To: editor-surveyor
There is no reality in your point of view.

All development is on a tight buget, and the staff you imagine cannot exist because they cannot justify their own existance. - No developer has uncommitted expendable funds.

Out here, the developers building the multimillion-dollar personal baronies on select plots next to "open space" purchased on the public dollar do quite well thank you. Those developers who take care of the politicians can get land purchased at a discount from a former owner distressed by selective regulatory pressure or can obtain selective regulatory dispensation after the buy.

The tight margins are more common to the lower middle class housing sector. It is the middle class who is getting screwed for selling out their own interests in order to prevent "sprawl." In terms of new housing, they get a choice of either buying cardboard tract houses on some island patch and then drive forever to work OR pay a fortune for Sustained Development Tenements next to public transit that usually involve some government subsidy, complete with HUD beneficiaries for neighbors.

67 posted on 12/20/2001 3:55:39 PM PST by Carry_Okie
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To: brityank
Property Rights is not just a Western Problem.

The more this crap happens, the greater the number of everyday Americans that will be galvanized to roll back this kind of tyranny.

Thanks for the ping.

68 posted on 12/20/2001 4:32:53 PM PST by MileHi
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To: brityank
Thank you so much for the ping.

Merry Christmas my friend in case I don't see you before Christmas Day! Thank you for the pings and information.

69 posted on 12/20/2001 4:50:58 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Carry_Okie;all
Bumping to back up a shameless plug. Natural Process is a provocative yet entertaining book which will push back the tide of green-socialism in America.

I bought a copy and it's been well worth the money for the brilliant insights it contains. It's going to be a classic someday.

70 posted on 12/20/2001 4:51:17 PM PST by snopercod
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To: editor-surveyor
BUMP and I agree with you, Thanks so much my friend.
71 posted on 12/20/2001 5:10:23 PM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Carry_Okie; r9etb
Out here, the developers building the multimillion-dollar personal baronies on select plots next to "open space" purchased on the public dollar do quite well thank you.

Ah, but now you are talking about the Enviro-NAZI themselves! - That's different; they get an automatic 'bye' from the regulations that their own organizations promulgated.

"The tight margins are more common to the lower middle class housing sector"

And those are the ones that r9etb is talking about. - The "lobbyist" he imagines turns out in reality to be the engineer who designs the subdivision, and he ends up working for free because of the nature of the contracts. - I've spent many a night at a planning commission or board of supervisors meeting, waiting to speak on an agenda item that's last on the calendar, and can't ever remember getting reimbursed for one.

These marxist NIMBYs like r9etb who think that a subdivision is 'costing' them something because the view of someone else's land that they had been enjoying for free is going to be changed need a lesson in real world economics.

72 posted on 12/20/2001 6:15:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: r9etb
"these developments often impose significant costs -- monetary and otherwise -- on others."

Will you kindly enumerate those "costs" so that all here can understand your agenda?

73 posted on 12/20/2001 6:21:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: Snow Bunny
Hi Snow Bunny!

You warm up the thread just by being here ;-)

74 posted on 12/20/2001 6:23:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: 1Old Pro
"SMART GROWTH" = Liberalism's new term to redistribute wealth and population from the Republican controlled suburbs to the Democrat controlled cities. Smart Growth is a bad word.

How right you are, we have been fighting "Smart Growth," for 4 years.

76 posted on 12/20/2001 7:13:21 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: brityank
Thanks.
77 posted on 12/20/2001 8:13:13 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: editor-surveyor
Please take me off your mailing list.

Thanks

78 posted on 12/20/2001 8:21:26 PM PST by Little John
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To: Askel5;John Robinson;Carry_Okie
How'd you do that? I've been blocked if I try to put anything into the "To:" slot that isn't an actual, or absolutely correct screen name currently on file! Is ThanksBTTT an actual screen name?

I know Carry-Okie is incorrect... It's Carry_Okie and I bet he didn't get your ping.

The reason it's important to me is that I used to troll for replies by sneaking messages into the "To:" line.

"CAN YOU STILL TROLL FOR REPLIES IN THIS SPACE? TESTING!!!"

(see, I tried to put this in the "To:" box and it wouldn't take it... pshaw!)

79 posted on 12/20/2001 8:22:11 PM PST by SierraWasp
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To: rockfish59
"one more home gets put up next to me and i lose my view of mt. rainier! now that effing sucks!"

Then, by golly, yew bedder giddy up an buy them there lots and plots you're enjoyin fer free, RIGHT NOW!!!

80 posted on 12/20/2001 8:30:34 PM PST by SierraWasp
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