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No offence, but Muslims love Jesus as much as Christians do
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 12/19/2001 | John Casey

Posted on 12/18/2001 4:10:48 PM PST by Pokey78

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To: Mark17
Very true - He was much more than a carpenter!
21 posted on 12/18/2001 4:36:29 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: Pokey78
 Nietzsche thought that the only figure in the New Testament who commands respect is Pontius Pilate. Yet the very ferocity of Nietzsche's onslaught on Jesus showed how strong in his heart was the image he wanted to destroy.

In which case, Satan must be a godly as God.  </barf>
I love liberty.  I hate statism.  Therefore, statism must
run very strong in me.  Why is it that religious illogic
goes unquestioned, while we would laugh in the face
of anyone trying to pull this stunt in politics?  Talk
about PC.

22 posted on 12/18/2001 4:37:22 PM PST by gcruse
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To: Pokey78

23 posted on 12/18/2001 4:37:28 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: Doctor Doom
Whatever you say Dr, whatever you say. Of course I am right, and you know it.
24 posted on 12/18/2001 4:37:36 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Gritty
They are only in love with their stunted idea of Him.

Wow. Imagine how many theological debates this could be said of - between Muslims and Christians or Christians of varying denominations. :)

25 posted on 12/18/2001 4:38:33 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Mark17
Of course I am right, and you know it.

And humble. And handsome. And smart.

Why the very grassblades grow to reach higher to your glory.

26 posted on 12/18/2001 4:39:40 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Pokey78
what crap
27 posted on 12/18/2001 4:39:52 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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To: Doctor Doom
And humble. And handsome. And smart.

You are catching on.

28 posted on 12/18/2001 4:42:34 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Pokey78
What pablem.

Islam wants all that is not Islam to be Islam. Or else. You are either with them or against them. Nothing else really matters.

Ponder a bit and think about the "either you are with us or against us" concept. Sounds like the Bush doctrine, eh?

History will look back on this time and see that serious men and women fought against evil. And won.

29 posted on 12/18/2001 4:43:02 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Texaggie79
This is still thier doing - not God - no one can say Jesus is Lord and truly believe it except by the Holy Spirit.

It is not anything man does - it is what he chooses to receive.

30 posted on 12/18/2001 4:43:22 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: Pokey78; RnMomof7
Typical libmedia bunkum.
31 posted on 12/18/2001 4:43:43 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Mark17
The very sun rose to see your brilliance.

Why, you may be the sharpest tack....--

(Anyone know how to unstick the SARCASM LOCK key?)

32 posted on 12/18/2001 4:44:06 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Pokey78
Organized religion is a tool much like a hammer; it is generally used to beat into malleable form the raw material under its arc of influence be they willing or simply in the way, and just as the smithy enjoys the shaping and forming of his handiwork, the bishops, preachers and imams see themselves as master artisans engaged in the work of the one true God while those within range of the hammer supplicate themselves whimpering or fly forth from the force of the hammer squirting the errant fragments among the infidels who escaped.

The clever either hide away or become one with the craftsman, either way he remains apart from his creator since he depends on estrangement or membership.

If God exists for the many He exists for the one - as long as there are salesmen and tyrants there will be gluttons and despots; I pray, but I do not congregate, for in numbers there is danger.

33 posted on 12/18/2001 4:45:41 PM PST by Old Professer
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To: Doctor Doom
(Anyone know how to unstick the SARCASM LOCK key?)

Well, maybe you are not catching on after all.

34 posted on 12/18/2001 4:46:05 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Mark17
(PS - Doesn't change the fact that there are a thousand other possibilities than the narrow two that false dichotomy presents.)
35 posted on 12/18/2001 4:46:17 PM PST by Doctor Doom
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To: Doctor Doom
(PS - Doesn't change the fact that there are a thousand other possibilities than the narrow two that false dichotomy presents.)

Then tell me some of them. You never did that.

36 posted on 12/18/2001 4:47:17 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Doctor Doom
If there are thousands of possibilities – please share with us your one in a thousand.
37 posted on 12/18/2001 4:52:05 PM PST by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander
I agree.
38 posted on 12/18/2001 4:54:11 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Pokey78; Orual; Romulus
Glaringly absent here is the word apostasy. In much (most?) of the Islamic world, Muslims who leave their faith for another -- including Christianity -- are subject to drastic penalties, including death.

Strange behavior for those who "love Jesus as much as Christians do."

39 posted on 12/18/2001 4:54:26 PM PST by dighton
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To: Gritty
Nonsense. They don't love the "real" Jesus. They are only in love with their stunted idea of Him.

They don't speak badly about Jesus, in the sense that they respect him as a prophet, but, as you say, they don't love the "real" Jesus, but only their stunted idea of Him.

My Arab Muslim friends in college are very insistent on the point that Jesus was not the Son of God (God has no son! they insist), they are very insistent on their assertion that Jesus was not crucified or resurrected (He was assumed into Heaven, according to them).

But, oddly enough, they told me that they believe Jesus will be the Judge on Judgement Day.

They are very respectful of Mary (Miriam) and her mother, who isn't mentioned by name in the Bible, but who Catholics and Muslims both know as Anne.

40 posted on 12/18/2001 4:56:10 PM PST by wimpycat
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