Posted on 12/18/2001 4:10:48 PM PST by Pokey78
Then how can Islam say that Jesus was not divinty, truly God and truly man?
As to the Walther P99, I have the 9 mm. There are two things that I don't like about it:
1) It doesn't have a safety. Yes, it's a double-action which implies that the safety is built in, but I am more comfortable with a mechanical safety.
2) It's very light (mainly composite) and I have "loose wrists" which causes it to jam frequently. I never have that problem with the Beretta.
As for accuracy, it is fantastic. My husband has his own Walther P99 and has none of the jamming problems I have. The German police force uses them exclusively, so there is another positive testimonial.
Sorry for the confusion. I also had that problem with Lucius Cornelius Sulla's post. I really need to stay away from FR early in the morning or drink some heavy duty coffee. Thanks for your patience!
Clearly, they are speaking of "another Jesus":
2 Corinthians 11
3 But I am afraid that just as Eve was deceived by the serpent's cunning, your minds may somehow be led astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ.
4 For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough.
Do you have trouble reading, Woody?! I said the people who butcher Christians in the name of God are murderous heretics. Check out my post #194. We Muslims have more reason to hate the Wahabbi cult than anyone else, becuase they do to Islam what the Klan and the Inquisition did to Chritistianity-- that is utterly pervert it, making it unrecognizable to most Muslims.
As a Christian, I think you understand that it is the nature of evil to distort and twist goodness. Surely, here in the States, we see that kind of thing going on throughout the culture... We see the left expanding the meaning of compassion and diversity to mean respectability for homosexuals, and social acceptance of illegitimacy-- with all that implies for society. Over time, the goal of evil is to turn wrong to right, and condemn the good to riducle and mockery, turning civilization on its head and returning man to his animal nature. So, to many Muslims, this Wahabbi cult is an evil exposed, and we can only hope that it has been caught in time.
As far as the rest of your post, please understand that I state Islam's understanding of Christ merely to explain it to you-- this neither to change your mind on the nature of Jesus, nor to insult you.
What does it matter to you, if Muslim revere Jesus in their own way? He's still Jesus, and as I understand the Scripture, he'll be back to straighten out everybody's doctrine.
My best to you and yours.
Jesus was no ordinary man, or ordinary prophet.People sometimes miscontrue the usuage of the word prophet to mean some kind of pagan Greek oracle. To Muslims, a PROPHET is the Sign of God on Earth. We believe Jesus was "the Infallible, the Immaculate Prophet". Like Moses, God gave him power beyond all men.
As far as his divinity is concerned, Muslims are taught that Divinity is the sole province of God, the Almighty Creator (to you, God the Father) You know that part of the Old Testament, where it says something to the effect "For the Lord, thy God, is a jealous God" (and so on). Plus, there is the commandment "Thou shalt not have any gods before Me".
God's Word will not return unto Him void, but will accomplish that whereunto it is sent.
"The election hath obtained it, and the rest were hardened."
Think, man, think.
You know, it may not be your wrists at all. Jamming seems to be a problem that is consistent through the Walther family. The British Secret Service discarded the Walther because they believed this to be true. In fact, they claim that in only jams when you need it the most (in combat). I hear they actually switched to Berrettas in the 80s.
I myself have run into this from time to time. My cousin says that Walthers are cursed. (I don't believe him, but sometimes I worry...)I just love the feel of the Walther, and can't seem to give them up.
The entire quote was great, but I think Spurgeon's concluding remarks deserved a re-post:
You have so insulted us by denying the Godhead of Christ, you have charged us with so great a crime, that you cannot expect us to sit coolly down and blandly smile at the imputation. It matters not what a Man worships, if it be not God, he is an idolater. There is no distinction in principle between worship to a god of mud and a god of gold, nay further, there is no distinction between the worship of an onion and the worship of the sun, moon, and stars. These are alike idolatries. - C.H. Spurgeon from his sermon "[Jesus] Name -- THE Mighty God"
BUMP.
You didn't make it clear who were the heretics. I did read the clarification on what you meant.
What does it matter to you, if Muslim revere Jesus in their own way? He's still Jesus, and as I understand the Scripture, he'll be back to straighten out everybody's doctrine.
( From Psalm 119:136) Rivers of water run down from my eyes, because men will not fall at the feet of their Creator Christ Jesus and will utterly be destroyed!
Why Christians cannot be brothers with those who deny Jesus is the MIGHTY GOD
So you worshipped a snake, you believe in reincarnation, have the name of Savage Beast and you claim to follow Jesus. Strange indeed.
(This stuff is elementary Christianity. Of course, much of what passes for Christianity nowadays, even in "conservative" circles, is pretty trite stuff.)
(This stuff is elementary Christianity. Of course, much of what passes for Christianity nowadays, even in "conservative" circles, is pretty trite stuff.)
However, it is built on the foundation I accept certain premises that I do not.
No offense was meant.
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