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UN's Criminal Court Threatens US Military and Sovereignty
CNSNews.com ^ | December 17, 2001 | Tom DeWeese

Posted on 12/18/2001 5:24:14 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen

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1 posted on 12/18/2001 5:24:14 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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Bump to Tom. Although the SPA does not go far enough. ALL American citizens should be covered by the law, not just those in Uniform.

The White House and the rest of our elites seem to think that the ICC is fine for Europe, and will cut of foreign aid if they dont hand over ol' Slobadan, but not us. Why are they waiting to unsign the treaty?!

2 posted on 12/18/2001 5:29:54 AM PST by Scholastic
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I don't see "Humor" as the category, so I guess I need to throw up. After I clean myself up, I will polish up the arsenal and wait for those blue-helmeted bastards to come in my town.

If there was ever an indication that we need to tell the UN to F' OFF, this is it.

Wake up America!

3 posted on 12/18/2001 5:33:17 AM PST by mattdono
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To: George Frm Br00klyn Park, dandelion; M1991; cdwright; mbb bill; ctdonath2; Zoey; kristinn...
ping
4 posted on 12/18/2001 5:35:29 AM PST by Scholastic
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Bump!
5 posted on 12/18/2001 5:35:59 AM PST by Scholastic
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To: Stand Watch Listen; goldilucky; KLT
It must be rejected by the US at all costs....Once the United States refuses to participate, the ICC will prove to be another useless UN folly."

I might have missed it, but when does this horse---- come up for a vote. I know bastard Bill Clinton signed on to this his last day or so in office, but when is this being voted on in our Congress??
(Thanks for posting this SWL) BTTT

6 posted on 12/18/2001 5:37:37 AM PST by ChaseR
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The US does have the right to pursue self interests such as protecting its citizens, defense of its borders and so forth.

When ANY organization functions in a way counter to our sovereignty, then funding to that body should be halted.

This SHOULD include the so-called United Nations!

7 posted on 12/18/2001 5:39:22 AM PST by NoClones
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the U,N FLAG AT THE W.T.C--------
8 posted on 12/18/2001 5:40:42 AM PST by expose
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However, when our conquering heroes come home, rather than victory parades, they may face criminal prosecution and they may find themselves tried for war crimes by judges from the very countries they just defeated. This is the reality of the United Nations' International Criminal Court (ICC).

Time to take that UN and make it into something useful like condos! They make me want to barf! I'm outraged!

Thanks for the Ping Chase, never saw this one!

9 posted on 12/18/2001 5:44:10 AM PST by KLT
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Yeah, this ICC is really hogwash! BTTT
10 posted on 12/18/2001 5:46:12 AM PST by ChaseR
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Ot O, found it:

"Once 60 nations sign on, the ICC becomes international law."

11 posted on 12/18/2001 5:47:53 AM PST by ChaseR
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GET THE U.S. OUT OF THE UN,GET THE UN OUT OF THE U.S.!

Our sovereignty is not for sale to the highest bidder! Our soldiers and sailors will not be tried by foreign courts!

12 posted on 12/18/2001 5:54:13 AM PST by Colt .45
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Here's something more important for you to fight against, rather than whether the South was right or not!

14 posted on 12/18/2001 5:59:30 AM PST by Colt .45
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16 posted on 12/18/2001 6:53:50 AM PST by RippleFire
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The International Criminal Court

Summary Analysis

By Henry Lamb

While America slept through the night of July 17, 1998, the United Nations Diplomatic Conference of Plenipotentiaries on the Establishment of an International Criminal Court created the final essential mechanism to establish global governance. By a vote of 120 to 7 (with 21 nations abstaining), the Conference adopted a new, international Statute which creates, for the first time in history, an international criminal court that has the power to enforce international law.

The new international Statute creates an Assembly of States Parties (ASP) consisting of one representative from each nation that ratifies the Statute. The Statute goes into effect 60 days after it is ratified by the 60th nation. The ASP will elect 18 judges who will serve 9-year terms. The judges will be divided into three Chambers: (1) a Pre-trial Chamber, consisting of "not less than six judges;" (2) a Trial Chamber, of not less than six judges; and (3) an Appeals Chamber, consisting of four judges and the Presidency. The Presidency consists of a President and two vice presidents elected by the judges. The function of the Pre-trial Chamber may be carried out by a panel of three judges assigned to a particular case, or by any one of the three. Pre-trial functions include ruling on jurisdictional matters, issuing warrants or subpoenas, determining issues of jurisdiction and admissibility, and the like. The Trial judges hear, and decide the cases brought before them -- without assistance from a jury.

The new Statute also creates an Office of the Prosecutor who is elected by the ASP for a 9-year term. The Prosecutor, a Deputy and their staff, are responsible for investigating and bringing to "justice" any person accused of an international crime: "the crime of genocide; crimes against humanity; war crimes; and the crime of aggression."

Crimes against humanity are defined to include: murder; extermination; enslavement; deportation or forcible transfer of populations "without grounds permitted under international law;" torture; rape; enforced prostitution; sexual slavery; forced pregnancy; enforced sterilization; persecution against any identifiable group; apartheid; and "other inhumane acts of a similar character."

Interestingly, genocide, crimes against humanity, and war crimes are each defined in a separate article of the Statute. Aggression, however, is not mentioned again, nor is it defined in the final document. In an addendum entitled "The Final Act," however, the Commission to Establish an International Criminal Court is directed to "prepare proposals for a provision on aggression, including the definition and elements of crimes of aggression and the conditions under which the International Criminal Court shall exercise its jurisdiction." The United States objected to this provision declaring that only the UN Security Council can act on matters of aggression under Article VII of the UN Charter.

State Parties that ratify the Statute "shall" cooperate with the Prosecutor; conform national laws to meet the requirements of the International Criminal Court; use national police powers and facilities to capture individuals; and confiscate property when directed to do so by the Prosecutor. Non-participating nations may enter into an ad hoc agreement to participate on a case-by-case basis. Non-cooperative states will be referred to the ASP and/or to the UN Security Council. There is no indication of what the ASP or the Security Council is expected to do in the event of non-cooperation by a State, whether a Party to the Statute or not.

Enforcement authority provides for sentences of up to 30 years for most crimes, and life in prison for the most severe crimes. The Court has the authority to confiscate assets of every kind. States Parties agree to use their law enforcement facilities to enforce the court's judgements, and to house, at the state's expense, the international criminals if so requested.

The United States insisted that the Prosecutor be limited by requiring the specific approval of any state in which an investigation would occur. The rest of the world scoffed at the suggestion. Then the U.S. proposed that the UN Security Council approve all investigations, a procedure that would allow the U.S. to use its veto power to block prosecution of American citizens. Again, the world scoffed. A compromise allows the UN Security Council to request a 12-month delay of any investigation. Accordingly, the U.S. cannot block an investigation of an American citizen. Its veto power could only block a request for a delay. An American on foreign soil, whether military or civilian, cannot be protected by the American government from investigation, arrest, detention, asset-confiscation, or conviction and imprisonment for any crime within the jurisdiction of the court.

The new court is to be financed through assessment of participating nations on the same basis of their assessment to the United Nations. The court has the power to confiscate property and assets of the accused, and to convert those assets to its own resources upon conviction. The court expressly accepts gifts and contributions from any nation, organization, corporation, or individual - a practice that is strictly forbidden by the UN Charter. The Court is directed to establish a "Trust Fund" from which to compensate "victims." The Court has ultimate power to set amounts for such compensation.

As a practical matter, the court will be operated by an 18-member "Bureau" chosen from among the ASP. The court will develop its own rules which must be approved by the ASP. The Statute may be amended only after seven years, by a two-thirds majority of the ASP. Although no record of the final vote was made, ABC News reported that the United States, joined China and Lybia among the seven nations that voted against the Statute.

It is much too early to speculate about what impact this court will have in the world or on America. From the reports received from observers in Rome, it is clear that many of the nations that voted for the court expect to use the court's power to prosecute America, and Americans for a wide range of "crimes against humanity." The official newspaper for the Conference, TerraViva, accused former President Bush of committing "the single worst blood bath of the war [against Iraq]." The NGO Coalition that formed to lobby for the court held a demonstration on the 4th of July in Rome that accused President Clinton of "genocide" because of the economic embargo against Iraq. The International Criminal Court now gives the world the legal instrument it needs to attack the United States for the crimes of success and prosperity.

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Terror on the Horizon

By Henry Lamb ©

So far, President Bush has resisted the calls to consolidate our response to Sept. 11, under the authority of the United Nations. The attack was against the United States, and the United States should respond. Other nations that wish to help may do so, but only to the extent that their help fits into our strategy. Response decisions should be made in the Oval Office – not in the corridors of the United Nations.

So far, so good, but the pressure to turn over the war to the "international community" will continue to mount.

There are no less than 12 international treaties dealing with terrorism, and even more U.N. resolutions on the subject. The United Nations has an Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention, with a staff of 350, in 22 offices around the world. Within this agency, there is a Terrorism Prevention Branch. If this agency has prevented any terrorism, it is not public knowledge – it certainly did not prevent the terror that struck the United States on Sept. 11.

The primary reason the United Nations is powerless to deal with terrorism is that it doesn't know what terrorism is. The United Nations has been unable to draw a definitive line between "terrorists" and "freedom fighters." When a car-bomb explodes on a busy street in Israel, much of the world sees it as the work of freedom fighters. The victims define it as an act of terrorism.

While every American recognized Sept. 11 as an act of terrorism, Osama bin Laden saw "God Almighty hit the United States ...," and his followers celebrated the "freedom fighters" in the streets.

The United States cannot allow the nation to get bogged down in this quagmire of indecision. We must maintain our own defense and our own right to rid the world of any and all who would plot to attack innocent civilians in America.

The United Nations has taken up the cause of terrorism with a new enthusiasm in the wake of Sept. 11. Kofi Annan has already called for a new "comprehensive" treaty on terrorism – a treaty to give the United Nations power to end global terrorism. This new initiative will attract many admirers and, sadly, many of those admirers will be Americans.

The United Nations already has in place the bureaucracy to implement the treaty. The new International Criminal Court (ICC) has now been ratified by 42 of the necessary 60 nations required for entry into force. The ICC will be authorized to prosecute "crimes against humanity," which is a vague term, to be defined by the court.

The world is very close to giving the United Nations the tools it needs to enforce its vision of global governance. This new treaty on terrorism could provide the public support the United Nations needs.

What's wrong with this scenario?

The majority of the members of the United Nations consider Israel's response to a Palestinian car-bomb to be an act of terrorism, not self-defense. The masses of protesters in Pakistan consider America's response attack on the Taliban to be an act of terrorism, not self-defense.

United States leadership in economic sanctions against Cuba, Iraq and Iran have repeatedly been called "crimes against humanity" by U.N. officials. America's standard of living – consuming 25 percent of the world's resources for only 5 percent of the world's population – has been cited repeatedly at U.N. meetings, as a "crime against humanity."

Make no mistake: The United Nations will target the United States the moment it has the power to do so, to bring the United States under its control. After all, it is our economic, social and foreign policies that are said to be the "injustice" that caused the Sept. 11 attacks. A new treaty on terrorism, a reinforced bureaucracy for the Prevention of Terrorism and a new International Criminal Court are major steps toward providing the United Nations with the power it needs.

The two remaining elements the United Nations needs to complete its global governance power grab are also quickly being assembled: a U.N. standing army and independent funding. Several nations have already committed troops to the United Nations.

Next March 18-22, in Monterey, Mexico, a world conference will assemble to hear the report of the High Level Panel on Financing for Development. This panel will recommend a Global Taxing Authority, a global tax on the foreign exchange of currency, a tax on the use of fossil fuels and a new U.N. Economic Security Council to oversee and implement the independent financing for the United Nations.

All of these pieces of global governance have been under construction for years. They are all coming together now. The events of Sept. 11, and America's response, will serve the same purpose World War II did in providing justification for creating an international authority to end war – or terrorism – as the case may be.

The United States is the only power on earth strong enough to prevent this terror on the horizon – this last step toward global governance. So far, President Bush has resisted the pressure. Whether or not the American people have the understanding – and the will – to stay the course of independence and freedom is the most important question our nation has ever faced. The answer will unfold over the next several months.

17 posted on 12/18/2001 7:03:10 AM PST by Alabama_Wild_Man
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18 posted on 12/18/2001 7:09:03 AM PST by Just another Joe
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The fence is being built and the sheeple are being herded inside. "Go back to sleep" seems to be what the Socialists are saying.
AMERICA: U.N.-FREE

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19 posted on 12/18/2001 7:42:31 AM PST by B4Ranch
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