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The essence of liberty: What is it that really makes one a libertarian?
LP News ^ | March 1995 | David F. Nolan

Posted on 12/15/2001 11:36:38 AM PST by jackbob

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To: Eagle Eye;NAMMARINE
After my 20 years of military service, it is amusing to see the lack of freedom that most servicemen would approve of. Most would wave a U.S. Flag over the dead bodies caused by our governments abuses of power. All in the name of freedom. Its getting worse due to our zero tolerance, zero history teaching government controled schools. NAMMARINE, have you ever wanted to nurse a baby in a moving car, with the tinted windows of your choice while armed with a 11 shot pistol? Can't do it, its not allowed!
21 posted on 12/15/2001 12:45:17 PM PST by earplug
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To: NAMMARINE
What is it that really makes one a libertarian?

being STUPID???

What is it that makes one a Libertarian basher?

Being an ignorant AUTHORITARIAN!!!

22 posted on 12/15/2001 12:49:10 PM PST by BillofRights
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To: Dane
You came very close to giving us a Gore Presidency.

Not at all, despite your claims. Let me explain it to you once again. Assuming a non-tainted, non-rigged voting pool, a candidate only gets to count the votes that are FOR that candidate. Votes that are NOT for that candidate are NOT subtracted from that candidate's total.

Your supposition is that my vote belonged to Bush and that I gave it to algore, neither of which is true.

Sometimes it is better to have an aknowledged opponent infront of you in the open than it is to have a hidden on behind you.

As for your Bush smear, everybody knows that Dan Burton's committee is a sieve of information to the liberal press

Case in point.Sometimes it is better to have an aknowledged opponent in front of you in the open than it is to have a hidden on behind you.

Do you really believe that Bush is seeking justice by sandbagging clinton into slumber so that Bush can blindside him later? I'd cheer it if he does, but I don't believe that's what he's doing.

We hollered when clinton abused Executive Privelge. Why accept it now?

23 posted on 12/15/2001 12:54:11 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
Good post!
24 posted on 12/15/2001 12:55:48 PM PST by BillofRights
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To: Joe Bonforte
What is it that really makes one a libertarian basher?

Your answer to the question is right on target. I might only add, that the bashers here at FR are like honey bees that have lost their stinger, and have no hive to return to. They just buzz around and around endlessly, without purpose or direction.

25 posted on 12/15/2001 12:56:13 PM PST by jackbob
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
...in order to better market his book.

I think I said that first here at FR, prior to him getting the nomination the second time. But I wouldn't call him an idiot for it.

26 posted on 12/15/2001 12:57:26 PM PST by jackbob
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To: christianswindler
I think that would depend on how one defines wealth. There is a large body of literature that distinguishes wealth as the product of human creativity and labor. I'm sure Mr. Nolan stands against any tax on wealth.
27 posted on 12/15/2001 12:59:06 PM PST by jackbob
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To: jackbob
Some of us promote freedom; others here on FR promote suppression of freedom.
It's a shame that some have their names so strongly associated with suppression freedoms.
28 posted on 12/15/2001 1:00:33 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Eagle Eye
Therefore, those who support such actions OR FAIL TO CONDEMN THEM are just as guilty.

Agreed. Including in a small tiny way, some of those here at FR. ((:>)

29 posted on 12/15/2001 1:02:49 PM PST by jackbob
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To: earplug
After my 20 years of military service, it is amusing to see the lack of freedom that most servicemen would approve of.

And doing it in the name of Liberty at that!

30 posted on 12/15/2001 1:02:59 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Celtjew Libertarian ; Dane
Heck, let me take that a bit further. Considering that self-defense in one of the pillars of libertarianism, Browne's reaction to the WTC bombing makes it rather clear he's a LINO.

LINO!

I love it!

Who else is a LINO? Bill Maher!

31 posted on 12/15/2001 1:03:44 PM PST by Liberal Classic
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To: gcruse
Count me out.

O K

32 posted on 12/15/2001 1:04:20 PM PST by jackbob
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To: jackbob
"What is it that really makes one a libertarian?"

Inadequate nurturing during adolescence.

33 posted on 12/15/2001 1:05:20 PM PST by verity
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To: Roscoe
The self valued land tax idea is an uncredited swipe from Heinlein.

I love the Heinlein books,other than the sex stuff he put in his later books.

I do have a problem with tax on land. I worked and saved and paid for my little bit of land. But do I own it? I guess I do unless sometime I am unable to pay the taxes on it.

Seems as though I am renting my land, year to year.

34 posted on 12/15/2001 1:05:44 PM PST by carenot
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To: jackbob
, if someone is sound on these five points, he/she is de facto a libertarian; if he fails on even one of the five, he isn't.

What, then, are the "indispensable five"-the points of no compromise?

Great article, I have personally struggled with libertarian concepts for quite some time, and it is good to see it so clearly written.
I currently classify myself as a reluctant conservative this alliance is founded on a single point of no compromise defined as pro-life that I share with other conservatives. Where do the libertarian’s stand on this issue and is it an uncompromising plank in the party? Politically I agree with the "indispensable five" if in fact one can be both libertarian and pro-life.

35 posted on 12/15/2001 1:07:06 PM PST by TightSqueeze
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To: Dane
You came very close to giving us a Gire presidancy.

So, the fact that 50 percent of the votes cast werent for Bush is someone the fault of a small segment of those voters? I speak only for myself, but I'll say this - Whichever party offers a candidate whose ideals are in accord with mine, that party's candidate gets my vote. This two-party thought system is a big part of what's wrong with our government. It's A or B, black or white, Republican or Democrat, you're either with us or against us In real life, things are just a little more complicated than that

36 posted on 12/15/2001 1:07:55 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: verity
Verity has now come out as being opposed to individual soveriegnty, opposed to the right of self-defense, in favor of anti-possession laws, in favor of income taxes, and opposed to a sound money system.

Do you feel better finally coming out of the closet?

37 posted on 12/15/2001 1:09:26 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: TightSqueeze
The issue has nothing to do with "life" It is about CHOICE. In cases where individuals cannot choose, their surrogates or guardians choose for them. The mother is the guardian of the fetus. Now, reread to the 1st tenet .............
38 posted on 12/15/2001 1:11:05 PM PST by thusevertotyrants
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To: TightSqueeze
Politically I agree with the "indispensable five" if in fact one can be both libertarian and pro-life.

Many, many are. Killing an unborn fetus is definately initiating force and is definately a procedure whose success depends on killing half the participants.

39 posted on 12/15/2001 1:12:18 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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