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In Midnight Vote, Senate Opens Door to Giving Themselves $4,900 Pay Raise
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| 12/08/01
Posted on 12/08/2001 8:52:29 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: Jeff Gordon Fan
Senator Allen is a pretty good egg. Look for him to do the right thing more often than not. We need more like him in the senate, it seems.
To: cva66snipe
It is obvious that you have not been in the military for awhile. Most of our senior people now have to take a pay cut when they retire. It is no longer the old days when I took home thirty three bucks a payday. In addition many of the in demand rates get SRBs up to $45,000 for re enlisting. Not to mention the other bennies that go with military service. Most young non military families today also have a hard time making ends meet unless they have some heavy duty degrees. The military is voluntary now with no draft and everyone knows the pay when they sign up. They Navy even has civilian stores working parties for loading the ships. There is alot more in the equation than just pay. Poor money managemant is the problem I see most with those who claim to be always broke.
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posted on
12/08/2001 10:07:33 AM PST
by
willyone
To: areafiftyone
I have been unemployed for 2 months since Oct 5th. I didn't want to jump on my own sob story.
Well you don't get any points for waiting 2 more posts to do that. However, would it make your situation any better if they didn't take the COLA increase? Seriously? Would that put any more food on your table?
To: Jeff Gordon Fan
Forgive Me, I was Busy Trimming Our Christmas Tree.....
To: VA Advogado
Oh Lighten up. I didn't want to talk about myself - that's all. I am saying that they can't even pass Bush's economic package but they sure as hell can pay a pay raise.
To: kayak; Ragtime Cowgirl; Constitution Day
Edwards: YEA!!!!!!
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posted on
12/08/2001 10:11:13 AM PST
by
Howlin
To: areafiftyone
Typo. I meant pass a pay raise
To: VA Advogado
Sounds like you fell off the last democrat turnip truck. No I'm neither GOP nor DEM, nor Libertarian, nor Brigadier, for that matter. I'm a Constitution Preservationist. You know that document our founders gave us that both parties so much despise? I think both houses based on performance and their lack of abiding to constitutional principle do not deserve a pay raise. They for the past 7 years have shown blatant disregard for the constitution unprecedented in our history even in the Civil War. I support none of the Democratic agenda and little of the present GOP's agenda as well.
To: paul51
backASSwards brah....S~
To: cva66snipe
Do you even vote? You sound like a very marxist man given your prior question. What in God's name gives you the right to decide how much anyone earns?
To: cva66snipe
Constitution Preservationist Like that
To: VA Advogado
What in God's name gives you the right to decide how much anyone earns? Earns?
The leaches just gave themselves a raise using our tax money.
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posted on
12/08/2001 10:20:01 AM PST
by
Roscoe
To: VA Advogado
most of th e skulls full of mush here make it out to be. Really showing your Liberalism side bro.
To: Bad~Rodeo
Sens. Phil Gramm, R-Texas, and Strom Thurmond, R-S.C. - voted for the increase,They both show as nay on the chart
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posted on
12/08/2001 10:24:56 AM PST
by
paul51
To: willyone
It is obvious that you have not been in the military for awhile. Most of our senior people now have to take a pay cut when they retire. It is no longer the old days when I took home thirty three bucks a payday. In addition many of the in demand rates get SRBs up to $45,000 for re enlisting. Not to mention the other bennies that go with military service. Most young non military families today also have a hard time making ends meet unless they have some heavy duty degrees. The military is voluntary now with no draft and everyone knows the pay when they sign up. They Navy even has civilian stores working parties for loading the ships. I never saw anyone retire out that didn't make more money on the hour in civilian work. As for retention bonunes being $45K? In 80 they were $15K. That puts it about the same allowing for price increases and minimum wage increases now seen. I was offered such and it still would not have made a family life comfortable even at E-5. BTW is that $45K for 4 or 6 years and taxes? At 6 years for $45k they'll keep about $5200 a year after taxes. I was in the volunteer military so I know what it means. I also saw the Navy loose a lot of good people to places like the shipyards. A job of twice the pay was offered me starting the next day that I got out of the Navy. The shipyard tried to recruit me.
To: paul51
Nay is a vote for the increase.
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posted on
12/08/2001 10:27:21 AM PST
by
Roscoe
To: John H K
Spare us your condescension.
What has Congress done this year to deserve a raise ?
Provide for the common defense ? Nope, blew that one big time.
Protect our borders and control immigration ? Nope, blew that one big time.
Keep the government within it's Constitutional boundaries ? Nope.
Ensure that our tax dollars are wisely spent ? Nope.
We got a paltry tax cut. Thank you, Massa Government.
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posted on
12/08/2001 10:29:42 AM PST
by
kristinn
To: paul51
Of course, Graham is NOT running for Re-Election. Every Man for Himself Rule???
To: Bad~Rodeo
Sorry but I don't get excited about pay raises for our representatives or, for that matter, our President. A 5k raise is peanuts.
RalphieBoy Nader made a big stink about this a few years ago. It's a Nader-type issue and he and his supporters are welcome to it.
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posted on
12/08/2001 10:31:27 AM PST
by
aculeus
To: Bad~Rodeo
And these are the same people who are bashing Bush and saying this spending the President wants - PUTS THE NATION IN A DEFICIT MODE FOR 3 YEARS - excuse me, but doesn't that include A PAY RAISE!!!!!!!! Time to get these people out of office - they are way to demented and arrogant!!!!!
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posted on
12/08/2001 10:34:14 AM PST
by
Sueann
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