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Ashcroft Skates
The Nation ^ | 12/7/01 | David Corn

Posted on 12/07/2001 6:53:41 AM PST by Jean S

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To: JeanS
The Democrats did not present much of an argument that Ashcroft and Bush were trampling civil liberties unnecessarily.

That's because there isn't an argument there to make. Hence the main reason the hearings fell flat.

21 posted on 12/07/2001 7:18:03 AM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: Elihu Burritt
If the Democrats had any real understanding of what this country is supposed to be, they could have given Ashcroft a very hard time.

A member of 1 week says he knows what 'the country is supposed to be' while elected Senators do not. Let us know when *you* get elected to Congress to give Mr. Ashcroft your hard time, if you're not busy doing hard time. LOL!

22 posted on 12/07/2001 7:19:07 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Elihu Burritt
You sound as though you wouldn't know what to complain about if they (the gubment) didn't overreach...
23 posted on 12/07/2001 7:20:28 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: YaYa123
"When Cantwell got off her punchline, that not all in America was laughing, Ashcroft was certainly not laughing. He was scowling at the implication of the cartoon, that he was some kind of evil, government Big Brother."

I noticed that also.
Cantwell certainly wished to appear as the smart-ax by attempting a ridiculing remark to the AG, but she didn't possess the facilities to demonstrate it. She didn't remotely understand Ashcroft's implication - it whizzed right over her head, proving Ashcroft's genius....
Az

24 posted on 12/07/2001 7:20:52 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: Carolina
Yeah the Rats figured John Ashcroft would be an easy target for them --- just paint him as a small minded paranoid Edgar J. Hoover and watch all hell break loose. But when the Attorney General waved that Al Qaeda manual around the steam went out of the Rats offensive and suddenly all they wanted to do was make the hearing go away even to the extent of changing it to their favorite issue gun control. You can always count on the Rats to blow themselves up on a land mine. They're like the Taliban in the sense that they don't know how to conduct themselves in the face of a determined foe and they sure couldn't handle Ashcroft. Next time they'll make sure not to tangle with him again.
25 posted on 12/07/2001 7:21:28 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Alpha
Goes to show you though who the real terrorists are.

We note that a member of 1 day calls the people's self-governance 'terrorists.' Go slither back into the ideologue cave, Omar.

26 posted on 12/07/2001 7:21:30 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Carolina
Yet a frowning Cantwell snapped, "I'm not sure everybody in America is laughing at that."

I am laughing at the "I-bought-my-seat" Senator.

27 posted on 12/07/2001 7:22:38 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It appears that Ashcroft has gravitas.

Is that what those are called? Must be the Latin word for them.

28 posted on 12/07/2001 7:23:58 AM PST by Leesylvanian
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To: Cultural Jihad
Another wave of libertines has hit FR!
29 posted on 12/07/2001 7:24:18 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Alpha
I'm behind GW, Ashcroft and the military.
30 posted on 12/07/2001 7:25:43 AM PST by Godfollow
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To: JeanS
I'm grinning from ear to ear now :-)

I was listening to a sound bite on NPR radio and it so pissed me off (my humble apologies to Freepers here) to hear their unabashed leftist diatribe
Anyways, I was saying that I am very pleased how Ashcroft powerfully shredded his enemies and defended the administration's effort on fighting terrorism.

IMHO the DEMs are finding life so unbearable and are grasping at the 'civil liberties' issue as ammo to tear down Bush's overall popularity ratings.

31 posted on 12/07/2001 7:25:52 AM PST by prophetic
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To: JeanS
Ashcroft-----------2
Senate demholes---0
32 posted on 12/07/2001 7:27:04 AM PST by wny
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To: JeanS
"...with committee chair Pat Leahy and other members of Congress (though not many) grousing that the White House had decided on these policies without consulting Congress."

This is the real agenda. Leahy was left out of the loop. The administration does not recognize the pedestal Leahy seems to think he occupies.

33 posted on 12/07/2001 7:28:27 AM PST by WarPaint
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To: Alpha
Goes to show you though who the real terrorists are.

Lame, pathetic attempt to make your point. I dislike the IRS as much as anyone here - but calling them terrorists is like the abuse of the word Nazi for anyone you disagree with - it cheapens the horrific meaning of that term.

34 posted on 12/07/2001 7:29:07 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: WarPaint
So is Patty to be properly referred to as "Left Loop Leahy"?
35 posted on 12/07/2001 7:31:44 AM PST by azhenfud
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To: dirtboy
...but calling them terrorists is like the abuse of the word Nazi for anyone you disagree with - it cheapens the horrific meaning of that term.

Most worthy of a repeat. Evildoers do see law as a terror, making them tremble in fear that their evil deeds will be punished here on earth.

37 posted on 12/07/2001 7:38:48 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: JeanS
"To those who scare peace-loving people with phantoms of lost liberty, my message is this: Your tactics only aid terrorists--for they erode our national unity and diminish our resolve. They give ammunition to America's enemies and pause to America's friends. They encourage people of good will to remain silent in the face of evil."

Good for Ashcroft. This should be on every Republican ad.

38 posted on 12/07/2001 7:39:41 AM PST by Reagan's_Mom
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To: JeanS
John Ashcroft is a good man...humble, honest, and very smart to boot...O that we had thousands like him in DC, instead of a mere handful.

He also knows the RAT pack well, having watched their petty tactics for years as a member of the Club himself.

They didn't lay a glove on him, which doesn't surprise me one bit.

The difference between Bush/Ashcroft and the Clinton/Reno Gang could not be more striking...thank God.

39 posted on 12/07/2001 7:40:57 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: anniegetyourgun
I am laughing at the "I-bought-my-seat" Senator.

My sympathies. We have ambulance-chasing-Ted-Kennedy2 Johnny Edwards here who has White House ambitions.

40 posted on 12/07/2001 7:41:24 AM PST by Carolina
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