Judges Lock Up More Teachers

But is it a fundamental right to be able to work as a teacher---or are there restrictions on who can get a job as a teacher ?

I have a fundamental right to work as an engineer. If I refuse to show up to work, my boss has a fundamental right to replace me. Neither you nor I, nor anyone else has a fundamental right to a paycheck or to work in any one particular place of employment. If a teacher is doesn't like the working conditions or the pay or the benefits, thay have a fundamental right to be a teacher SOMEWHERE ELSE! That is, if they can find something to their tastes.

but she isn't in jail

The question is do they have the right to strike? If they do, what are the guide lines leading to a strike( see 30 day cool-off period for some unions)? If they are within the parameters of the law, they have the right to srike, the judge is wrong and should be addressed. If they(the teachers) are wrong, then the jail will be just the beginning.

That is the most ridiculous statement. I live in an affluent community, and I can assure you that the teachers here are putting in well more than 40 hours of work a week. Many of those teachers are mentoring the children of two-income families who have no time for their teenagers. I saw this while my older two were in public school. Some kids would have no involvement with an adult if it weren't for teachers. High school, for example, starts at 7:20. All teachers must be on campus by 7:00, earlier if they have duty. No teacher leaves before 3:30, and many stay later. That doesn't include teachers who are involved in extracurricular activities, some of whom get paid an extra two hundred dollars a month for an extra forty or so hours of work. Teachers have about 20 minutes for lunch, and can't leave campus. They grade papers at home. It's also against the law to accept money from any parent of a student in the school. Teachers may tutor students from other schools for extra pay. It's called "free enterprise." Summer break is now about two months of the year, and of that time, many teachers have to take continuing education classes.

Me thinks that someone has fed you a line of bull. I also live in an affluent school district. Three public school teachers live in my neighborhood and I know several other school teachers quite well. The high school teachers I know work from 7:00 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. (the school day ends at 2:12 p.m.) They are usually home or on the golf course by 2:45 p.m. They are not required to supervise extra-curricular activities and most of them don't. Under the local contract, they are only required to teach 5 out of 8 periods a day. The three remaining periods are available -- but not necessarily used -- for grading papers, preparing lesson plans (which is a joke because most teachers regurgitate the same lesson plan year in and year out), and meeting with students and parents. In one local school district the teachers are paid extra for cafeteria duty, and in the adjoining school district, they have to use one of their free periods for cafeteria duty a couple days a month on a rotating basis. And while one of my teacher friends complains that she has to grade papers at home at night, she also brags how she manages every year to have her free periods all in a row, which she uses to go shopping and socialize.

Stacking the Deck....Like striking IN THE MIDDLE of the School year....??????

Oh Yeah and
One teacher, Carol Ann Drum, retired on the spot rather than have Kreizman send her to jail.
They are FREE...To quit.

If they did it en masse, they'd just be jailed anyway, because it would be an obvious ploy to continue the strike by another method.

No, they wouldn't...but the semi-freeloading bastards wouldn't have the stones to try it anyway...And therein lies my whole problem with this....the simple fact is, halfway thru the School Year, they are in effect taking hostages....

Strike in September, or Strike in June...whatever, but at THIS MOMENT IN TIME....The Interests of the Taxpayers, and the Students is the Prime Motivator, not the teachers right to NOT PAY FOR A GREATER SHARE OF THEIR HEALTHCARE.

You speculate that they would be jailed with nothing to back up that speculation. The judge can't keep people from quitting a job. Several air traffic controllers quit rather than go to jail when Reagan jailed a bunch of them. The judge already let one woman go when she retired. So there is no proof that he would not do the same for others.

The thing is they knew it was against the law to strike when they took the job. Now they want to strike and not pay the price. They should have never become bureaucrats if they didn't like the terms of being a bureaucrat.

That one hour is for work, and it's only a small fraction of the time needed to plan lessons, and grade papers for 150

In my school district, middle school and high school teachers only actually teach for 5 of 8 periods a day, which means they have three hours to do the other stuff. And most tenured teachers use the same lesson plan year after year except on those rare occassions when the State Board of Regents includes new material in the program, such as "Heather Has Two Mommies."

Not exactly an opportune time, but it also appears that they've been at an impasse since summer.

Correct, and the Unrepresented parties (Students) have a substantial interest in the matter. And it appears the only one looking after it is the Judge.

Look at it this way, You're 18, A Senior, already looking at Colleges...6 months from Graduation...And over about 600 Dollars in Healthcare costs, these bastards walk out, leaving the End of Your School year in Doubt...

Even if the State makes an accomodation, as to their ability to Graduate, No College will.

And I gotta say, I sure as hell wouldn't be inclined to take a job there and move into the community if something like that happened. I doubt that you would be inclined to take a job as a bureaucrat in the first place. :)

And further Considering...

Under the deal currently on the table, teachers would get a 3.8 percent raise the first year, 4 percent the second year and 4.2 percent the final year. Health care fees would be paid on a sliding scale based on salary. Teachers making more than $65,000 would have to pay $853 a year, instead of the current $250 flat fee.

A guaranteed 12 % over three years, and only WHEN YOU"RE over 65K do you even pay the friggin extra 650...

I'm sorry Dude, but the Judge Is right, especially if he follows thru and Fires them after a week in Jail.

FIRE THEM!

Not true, there are Course requirements and Prerequisites to be satisfied....

I sort of figured that from your posts over the years. We tend to agree more than we disagree and I tend to be alot like you.

Have a good day.

Two teachers who are married and own rental property can afford a $400,000 house.....and your point is? That they are hard-working industrious people who invested their money wisely? We should all be so smart. :)