Posted on 12/05/2001 7:50:45 PM PST by 100American
Of course our Jewish friends have the rightful claim. Palestinians are vilent squatters and need to move out. The sooner the better.
Indeed, this is a fascinating topic. It has been long ignored, but was commonly taught in earlier centuries, especially in Europe. (I pursued it in some detail while at Oxford, but am a bit rusty now.) Interest seems to have caught on in America only fairly recently.
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Thanks, Yehuda. I needed that! LOL.
This response does not however disregard the possibility that there are devout Jews who may turn towards Jerusalem at those particular moments when it is most appropriate to do so (call to worship, etc), it's just that many early REFORM temples did not consider Jerusalem, the Holy Temple, or zionism as an important part of the Reform movement, and therefore did not build the structure with any significance to the congrgation facing east.
Oh Ron Wyatt the chap who discovered Noahs Ark, Soddom & Gommorah, the Ark of the Covenent etc etc. 150 years of thousands of respected archeologists searching the deserts and who finds all the goodies - good old Ron.
The only thing Ron has discovered is how to separate fools from their money.
The Pillars of Solomon my friend are in the Sinai Desert, always have been. They are rock formations and located at an old copper mine attributed to date back to Solomon's time.
On the shelf behind me is a rather nice copper bearing rock I picked up their some years ago.
22. If Arab muslims trace their heritage to Ishmael, they are admitting that the Jews (as in Abraham) were there first.
Therefore, by no condition, legal reference or Arab custom is Ishmal entitled to be placed above Issac.
The slave/handmaiden Hagar slept with Abraham as per Sara's consent and concieved Ishmal...the son of a slave. Shortly afterwards Sara, the lawful wife of Abraham became pregnant with a legal heir for Abraham.
Because of Hagar's pissing and moaning combined with her disrespect of Sara she was banished and Ishmal along with her.
The hatred Hagar instilled in Ishmal (founder of what is now Islam) for the people of Abraham continues today.
From what I've heard from people of the area, no nation wants to take in the Palestinians because they are theives, lairs and cheats.
The only reason the rest of the Arab/Islamic world tolerates them is because of their mutual hatred of Israel. Notice with all that open and available land in the middle east "no one" is offering one single acre to the Palestinians.
There's even a school of thought that the Tel Dan inscription is an epigraphic forgery - but that's another interesting story alltogether
What is indesputable however is that the Stele is about 150-250 year later than Davids time. Even the museum that houses the stone considers the reference to BYTDWD as a longshot.
Even the author himself admits that his political statements were out of place. The real issue wasn't the the "science" but the underlying motive behind it. Being more commentary than science it would not have been peer reviewed.
I probably should have said that the Ark is traditionally on the wall that points towards Jerusalem. The fact that sometimes it isn't is not exclusive to the Reform. The Muslim's idea of facing Mecca was probably derived from the Jewish tradition.
I'm no Talmud scholar but I believe it is a requirement to face Jerusalem in certain prayers and some extend it to all prayers even the ones at home.
Close, but no cigar. Mostly semantics. Since "Jews", distinct from members of the other 10 tribes, didn't come into existence until about 922 BC with the formation of the Southern Kingdom, your date is a bit early.
Genesis 11:31 Terah took his son Abram, his grandson Lot son of Haran, and his daughter-in-law Sarai, the wife of his son Abram, and together they set out from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to Canaan.
Interesting article, but Abraham was not a Jew. Neither were Jacob/Israel or any of the 12 sons Jews. They were all Hebrews, and all Israelites, but the Southern Kingdom was not created until ~922BC, and until then there were no Jews.
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