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Criminal Use of the 50 Caliber Sniper Rifle
Violence Policy Center ^ | 2001

Posted on 11/30/2001 7:16:52 PM PST by technochick99

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To: coloradan
Definitely bang lust! Every time I see an article about hoplophobic cretins trying to ban .50 BMG rifles, I want one more and start figuring out how to finance one. I'm doing a basement build-out with game room and media room now (doing my part for the recovery), so it'll have to wait for a while. Let's hope they don't manage to ban them in the next little while.
61 posted on 12/01/2001 5:50:40 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: dighton
Albert Petrosky walked into an Albertson's Grocery Store in suburban Denver, Colorado, and gunned down his estranged wife and the store manager. Armed with an L.A.R. Grizzly 50 caliber sniper rifle, an SKS Chinese semi-automatic assault rifle, a .32 revolver, and a 9mm semi-automatic pistol

He forgot to pack his flame thrower, Derringer and brass knuckles. What a crock.

62 posted on 12/01/2001 6:00:19 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Teacher317
... getting hit in the head with a bowling ball at a family reunion ...

IowaHawk: World Mourns Larry Snitker, Jr.

Apparently concerned with the fate of his bowling ball and the loss of his 'hot hand,' Snitker inserted his head in the ball return to investigate. When he was unable to locate the swirl blue $89 Dick Weber Diamond Pro 16 model ball, he apparently convinced wife Brenda to search the adjacent ball return chute. When the machine creaked to life, it was too late. Their heads lodged firmly in the return chutes, Snitker and his wife waited helplessly for the certain death that would accompany the next ball.

63 posted on 12/01/2001 6:00:43 AM PST by dighton
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To: technochick99
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64 posted on 12/01/2001 6:04:30 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: ArneFufkin
You can get the flamethrower here:

(scroll about halfway down the page) ;-P

65 posted on 12/01/2001 6:09:16 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: technochick99
Their press releases are great. They haven't yet matured to the subtleties of fraudulent propaganda. They state that 2 "children" are killed a day ... of course, they consider a 17 year old Crip named "Romeo Dawg", unfortunately gunned down by a surly Blood, a child. The VPC staff should schedule a weekend getaway of education and counseling with a posse of 17 year old male 'children' who are most at risk for getting "capped in da a$$ wit' a quickness." What disingenuous idiots.
66 posted on 12/01/2001 6:14:03 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: FreedomPoster
$13 grand??? LOL!!! How much for the shopping cart?
67 posted on 12/01/2001 6:15:34 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: technochick99
Cesspool stench bump.
68 posted on 12/01/2001 6:16:15 AM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: ArneFufkin
If you want a good laugh, and a great illustration of media cluelessness, see this thread about gunsforkids.com and NBC10 in Philly.
69 posted on 12/01/2001 6:21:36 AM PST by FreedomPoster
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To: FreedomPoster
Dumb woma ... Ahhh ... that Cindy Hamill? I'm not particularly proud of this, but I bedded her after she bought my story that I used to be "Vanilla Ice".
70 posted on 12/01/2001 6:28:38 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: technochick99
bump
71 posted on 12/01/2001 6:33:36 AM PST by VOA
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To: FreedomPoster
I'll bet the guys who finished last in the Marine boot camp obstacle course got Flame Thrower duty. I wouldn't want to be on Iwo Jima and square off with Japanese rifleman at 60 meters .... "S***!"
72 posted on 12/01/2001 6:38:17 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: technochick99
Branch Davidian cult members fired 50 caliber sniper rifles at federal agents during their initial gun battle on February 28, 1993. The weapons' ability to penetrate "any tactical vehicle in the FBI's inventory" prompted the agency to request military armored vehicles "to give FBI personnel adequate protection from the .50 caliber rifles" and other more powerful weapons the Branch Davidians might have had.

Urban legend cooked up by the BATF. Absolutety no proof has ever been given of this.

On February 27, 1992, a Wells Fargo armored delivery truck was attacked in a "military style operation" in Chamblee, Georgia, by several men using a smoke grenade and a Barrett 50 caliber sniper rifle. Two employees were wounded.

Yep, this one is real. So what. Armored trucks are attacked with all kinds of hardware.

On April 28, 1995, Albert Petrosky walked into an Albertson's Grocery Store in suburban Denver, Colorado, and gunned down his estranged wife and the store manager. Armed with an L.A.R. Grizzly 50 caliber sniper rifle, an SKS Chinese semi-automatic assault rifle, a .32 revolver, and a 9mm semi-automatic pistol, Petrosky then walked out into the shopping center parking lot, where he exchanged fire with a federal IRS agent passing by and killed Sgt. Timothy Mossbrucker of the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department. Petrosky, who was known to his friends as "50-cal Al," fired all four weapons, including the 50 caliber rifle, during this murderous rampage.

He carried all that hardware in to kill his wife and her lover? Something don't smell right with that story.

On March 19, 1998, following an undercover investigation, federal law enforcement officers arrested three members of a radical Michigan group known as the North American Militia. The men were charged with plotting to bomb federal office buildings, destroy highways, utilities and public roads, and assassinate the state's governor, senior U.S. Senator, federal judges and other federal officials. All three were ultimately convicted. A 50 caliber sniper rifle was among the weapons found in their possession.

How were the weapons used in a crime? Just because they were possessed by criminals doesn't mean that the 50 was used in a crime.

Wisconsin father and son James and Theodore Oswald were sentenced in 1995 to multiple life terms for armed robbery and the murder of a Waukesha police captain. The two had "a small armory of sophisticated and expensive weapons, including two custom-made .50-caliber rifles powerful enough to assault an armored car—which the two were considering doing," according to the Waukesha county sheriff.

But was the 50 actually used in the murder? If I kill someone with my pocket knife, does that mean that all my firearms were used in the crime to?

In the summer of 1995, Canadian officials in British Columbia found a Barrett 50 caliber sniper rifle, 500 rounds of ammunition for it, and enough explosives to fill a five ton truck at a remote site. It is believed that members of a Texas militia group planned to set up a training camp at the site. Although at least one convicted felon was identified as a suspect, the investigation was dropped due to difficulties in prosecuting across national borders. The incident prompted one Texas Constitutional Militia official to observe, "We are not all raving maniacs. I'd kind of like to keep our lunatics on our side of the border."

Charges dropped, no crime here.

This sounds like they are really reaching for anything to get in the news.

73 posted on 12/01/2001 6:41:57 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: america76
More Americans will drown in their BATHTUBS next year than will be killed by a .50 BMG bullet.
74 posted on 12/01/2001 7:02:50 AM PST by GlesenerL
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To: Double Tap
He carried all that hardware in to kill his wife and her lover? Something don't smell right with that story.

I'll try to verify, but I'll wager that he used the automatic pistol and the other weapons were in his car.

75 posted on 12/01/2001 7:04:30 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: technochick99
"Branch Dividian cult members fired 50 caliber sniper rifles at federal agents....prompted the agency to request military armored vehicles"

This would certainly put a very different light on (some) of the events at Waco. I have a problem understanding how they boiled out of cattle trailers into a hail of bullets and yet it is reported that there was not one bullet hole in either of the cattle trailers parked right in front of the house. I never have understood how that happened unless the drivers took off leaving the agents to root, hog, or die.

76 posted on 12/01/2001 7:05:16 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: MissAmericanPie
It was an absolute debacle from start to finish ... the ATF needed a high profile event to forestall Congressional defunding - they thoughtfully alerted a local TV outlet before the raid. The last firearm one would grab under a seige would be a 50 cal .... that thing has to be 5 feet long. And ... I don't remember the Davidians taking pot shots at the assembled authorities after the initial firefight. The soulless ATF disinformation artists just cannot stop lying. They need to be summarily removed from any semblance of state authority. Bad bad people. All are probably still in service, with guns, badge and nebulous sanction.
77 posted on 12/01/2001 7:20:19 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
Yes, it doesn't warm ones heart to know these cowboys are still out there kicking in the doors of the wrong address.
78 posted on 12/01/2001 7:37:15 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: technochick99
Notice that not a single death can be attributed to the .50 cal. There's a whole lot of smoke here, but no fire. This is not only propaganda, it's BAD propaganda. Even a soccer mom should be able to see the holes in this diatribe.
79 posted on 12/01/2001 7:43:18 AM PST by IronJack
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To: technochick99
The L.A.R. Grizzly 50 caliber sniper rifle...

Note the "bullpup" action which makes the weapon easier to conceal. This feature, and its light weight. makes it obvious that this gun is intended for criminal use only.

80 posted on 12/01/2001 7:45:21 AM PST by Redcloak
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