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Islam Vs. The World
Too Good Reports ^ | December 2, 2001 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 11/30/2001 10:41:31 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen

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To: EclipseVI
Now, since your postings snack of more hatred and vindictiveness that logic, fact, and reason, I will not respond to any more of your postings on this topic.

I just answered the same question repeatedly...that's hatred huh? You wouldn't be a democrat would you?

61 posted on 12/01/2001 12:30:52 PM PST by Principled
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To: dennisw
Hubris is another good word to describe this faith without repent and against emancipation.
62 posted on 12/01/2001 1:16:48 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: hogwaller
You are right! But it is just usually those on the democratic left that name opposing ideas as "hate".
64 posted on 12/01/2001 1:39:26 PM PST by Principled
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To: hogwaller
Xenophobia manifests itself as hate, also.

Obviously so!

However, the point made several times on this thread is that the fear of muslim males is not irrational... there is obvious reason to have fear of muslim males.

That may or may not be my view- that's not the issue.

If 19 male muslims just killed your family members, and said they did it because they were your family, and they said that they will continue to kill your family whenver possible...it is obvious that a fear of muslim males is reasonable and rational; hence xenophobia is not applicable.

If, however, 19 muslim males killed your family and promised to continue killing your family at every opportunity and you then became fearful of, say, female pigme tribes from Papua New Guinea (ie NOT muslim males), that would be irrational and unreasonable- ie xenophobia.

Notwithstanding the correction, it is the case that democratic strategists often use "hate" to describe opposing views when they are unable to articulate a cogent response to an opposing argument.

66 posted on 12/01/2001 2:28:14 PM PST by Principled
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To: EclipseVI
For example, I am an American, I am a Muslim, and I have worn the military uniform in the service and defense of this great Nation for nearly 22 years now. I don't feel the need to "loudly differentiate" myself from any anyone, "Muslim terrorist" as you put it, or otherwise. I differentiate myself when I put on my uniform and go to work each day.

I don't believe your story about yourself. You come to FreeRepublic and start posting all kinds of threads. You are a Muslim propaganda maker plain and simple.

67 posted on 12/01/2001 3:48:46 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
I don't believe your story about yourself.

Golly, didn't you know muslims don't lie?

68 posted on 12/01/2001 4:11:04 PM PST by Principled
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To: Principled
This eclipse dude comes here and immediately posts 30 threads though now I don't see all of them in his recent posts search. All about Muslims or Israel or GWBush's war on terrorism. This is not what someone in our military does.

Shows me is some recycled character of some kind.

Hey, you made some good posts on another thread. Maybe the one on today's bombings in Israel by Muslim "activists".

69 posted on 12/01/2001 4:16:51 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw
I was here for a while.

I note the same BS from eclipsed brain VI.

A real transparent moron. He really thought he could come into the most politically astute forum on earth and bs his way through it.

Everyone has spotted him and most have ignored him. I couldn't resist the easy pickin's though...

70 posted on 12/01/2001 4:24:25 PM PST by Principled
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To: Alouette
bump to the top!!
71 posted on 12/01/2001 10:07:44 PM PST by timestax
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To: hogwaller
Speaking of uneducated and uninformed, you might read the koran, the hadith, a few biographies of Muhammed, and some history.

You'll find that the peaceful, tolerant Islam exists only in the minds of bumbling uniformed media idiots who refuse to think for themselves.

A key factor to keep in mind is the Islamic "us against them" mentality that justifies a double standard in their dealing with others. While honesty is generally a virtue, it is not necessary when dealing with the infidel - you.

To really understand Islam then, you must go to the source. For every tolerant passage in the koran, you can find a vicious, intolerant, jihad inducing passage. This is due to the fact that Muhammed's views changed over time. At first he wanted to accept the Jews and Christians, the "people of the book". But when they rejected his message, and scoffed at his claim to be a prophet, his pride and anger resulted in the concept of jihad.

History shows that the intolerant passages have won out over the tolerant passages again and again. The best Islam can boast of is not persecuting the Jews and Christians it relegated to second class citizens.

Islam was spread by the sword, conquering the Arabian penninsula, northern Africa, Spain, the Holy Land, Turkey, and pushed toward Vienna. This was not a peaceful expansion, but an Islamic crusade, a jihad.

Muslims have pushed civil wars and insurrections, piracies, revolutions, hijackings, kidnappings, assassinations, etc. for all of its existence. We're just seeing a resurgence of the same old Islam today.

73 posted on 12/01/2001 11:31:48 PM PST by watchin
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To: AGAviator
"Are you saying that if, say, the Palestinians converted to Christianity, or even Judaism, that the Israeli state would welcome them and give them the same full rights that Jews get?"

They wouldn't need to convert to Christianity or Judaism. They would need to become civilized, which probably does imply giving up on Islam. Israel is a very secular state, and would accept Hindus, Sikhs, Buddists, Christians, athiests, and pagans. They seem to have an intolerance toward guys who blow themselves up in crowds, though.

" Or if Persians were Zoroastrian instead of Muslims, they could amass the 400 nuclear weapons that Israel has, without being branded as a danger to peace?"

Atheists, Pagans, Buddhist, Zoroastrian, Christian - any flavor that doesn't have at its core the concept of killing everyone that won't convert to your belief would be less of a danger that the Bin Ladens, Husseins, and Arafats of the world.

74 posted on 12/01/2001 11:43:10 PM PST by watchin
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To: EclipseVI
In all honesty, if I were not a Christian and was seeking a religion, the terrorism of Muslims would not entice me to continue my investigation into the Muslim faith.

Your hypocrisy is stunning. You ally yourself with the religion of holy war and terrorism, and tell everyone else about how to be Christlike? I guess it's a little easier for you muslims. You can raid caravans and have sex with little girls and still be "Muhammedlike".

75 posted on 12/02/2001 12:10:03 AM PST by watchin
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To: watchin
bump
76 posted on 12/02/2001 12:14:39 AM PST by timestax
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To: EclipseVI
The Christian King did in fact protect the Muslims.

That's not surprising. Muslims are still protected today in predominately Christian nations, given freedom to build mosques and worship as they'd like. How many churches are there in Saudi Arabia??

"the distance between Islam and Christianity was no greater than a line in the sand that was drawn with his staff.

If that's the case, then why did the Muslims insist on the passages that adorn the Dome of the Rock? You know the ones I mean - they explicitly deny that God could have a son. That strikes at the heart of Christianity.

Let's turn it around: Christianity is just like Islam, except we Christians know that Muhammed was no prophet. You still maintain that it's a thin line?

77 posted on 12/02/2001 12:19:05 AM PST by watchin
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To: watchin
We all sense that the world is in trouble.. too much evil being released...GOD help us...
78 posted on 12/02/2001 12:23:26 AM PST by timestax
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To: EclipseVI
"My wife is one who choses to wear the traditional Hijab when outside the home. This is met, in the vast majority of cases with smiles, waves, and attempts to communicate as time permits."

That's a tribute to our Judeo-Christian worldview, shared by nearly all Americans, whether they realize the influence or not.

Case in point: how would my wife be treated if she were to go about in an Islamic republic with such visible signs of her Christianity? What if she were to were a cross necklace, for example? Or carry a Bible?

In those places, conditioned by an Islamic worldview, would the "vast majority" smile, wave, and attempt to communicate?

79 posted on 12/02/2001 12:25:59 AM PST by watchin
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To: hogwaller
God doesn't see Jew, Christian, Muslim

Thanks for the scoop, bud. Here I've been relying on my Bible, when I could have just talked to you. You must have a direct line or something??

80 posted on 12/02/2001 12:29:16 AM PST by watchin
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