BARRED FROM MILITARY SERVICE, GAY AND LESBIAN EX-SOLDIERS WAIT IN THE WINGS

CSSM ^ | Nov 27, 2001 | Nathaniel Frank

[Brian Bennett]

General Colin Powell: "I think it would be prejudicial to good order and discipline to try to integrate gays and lesbians in the current military structure. Skin color is a benign, nonbehavioral characteristic. Sexual orientation is perhaps the most profound of human behavioral characteristics. Comparison of the two is a convenient but invalid argument. African-American leaders told me that they resented having the civil rights crusade hijacked by the gay community for its ends."

Source: My American Journey, by Colin Powell, p. 533 Jan 1, 1995

[Brian Bennett]

FYI

[anniegetyourgun]

The Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military is an official research unit of the University of California, Santa Barbara.

ROFL!

[Random Access]

Center for the Study of Sexual Minorities in the Military

A group of independent thinkers with no apparent agenda that could, in any way, influence their research or conclusions drawn from that research.

[FormerLib]

The study, which draws on content analysis of fifty years of military, governmental, academic and other research data, offers four in-depth case studies of service members who served effectively as open homosexuals.

Fifty years and they can only produce four? Not that I'm really surprised; I don't even believe they found that many. I notice that they didn't name any names.

[Gimlet]

If the military campaign is extensive and sustained we will need all the well trained and effective people we can get. This is not a time to be divisive. Service and loyalty know no political boundaries. Semper fi. For those who serve, have served and will serve with loyalty and patriotism - I offer my unbounded gratitude and support just as those who went before us offered theirs. Thank-you, thank-you for your willingness to step up when it counts in the service of our country in its hours of need then, and now, and in the future. Those of us who have been there know this to be true and know that a grateful nation must be there to support and honor with our gratitude and also our practical support. The GI Bill has been called the biggest government hand-out ever. I for one am happy to see our country respond with decency. No more food stamps for the military and their families who risk everything that we can be safe. We are the better for their service in time of need. For those who returned we gave them our mark of gratitude. Let us continue that tradition of honor.

[Jimbaugh]

Click the banner above to see what has been going on for years.
There is a homosexual plan and it is working.

READ THE TRUTH ! ! !

[Brian Bennett]

This is not a time to be divisive

So Colin Powell and all the other military brass were being 'divisive' when they simply stated that homosexuals would undermine unit cohesion? I never get this argument the since 5000+ people died on Sept 11th, suddenly homosexuals should be able to recruit in schools, be open about their sexuality among our troops, engage in mock marriages, have special job preferences, and on and on. That kind of logic is pure bunk. The homosexuals are the ones being divisive by trying to force their unhealthy lifestyle on the American public. Sorry, we're not buying it.

[retiredtexan]

They need to stay on their knees and do what they do best.

[Brian Bennett]

This is not a time to be divisive. Service and loyalty know no political boundaries. Semper fi. For those who serve, have served and will serve with loyalty and patriotism

Semper fi to pedophiles, or homosexuals who deliberately spread AIDS, or those into bestiality, or NAMBLA members? I'm sure many of them served with 'honor' (because they weren't caught). So is it now too 'divisive' to consider them incompatable with military service because of their perversion? Should straight male soldiers be required to shower and sleep nude with female recruits? Then why homosexuals? It's common sense that they don't belong. Also, what about the combat blood supply? Even with HIV screening, the gays don't get tested after every encounter. That means the other innocent soldiers are constantly in danger of being given AIDS blood. Do we really want to weaken our military in that way?

[vladog]

Let them wait, I don`t see where we need them.

[ArrogantBustard]

I have two words for them:

Bugger off!

[IronJack]

With everthing else that's going on, nobody has time for this poofter agenda anymore. Homos are dying in the shadows, starving for relevance.

[FormerLib]

Only four you ask. Would YOU have the guts to do it?

I'm not a sexual deviant so I wouldn't have to.

And if I were, I'd get reparative treatment for it.

[dead]

the roughly ten thousand former soldiers who have been fired since the Gulf War for being gay, lesbian or bisexual

That number is ludicrous.

[colorado tanker]

Your tax dollars at work, Californians!

BTW, if Mr. Malady is such a cunning linguist, why is he working at a convenience store?

[FormerLib]

Bump!

[peabers]

Skin color is a benign, nonbehavioral characteristic.

Except for those goddamned boom boxes they carried everywhere on the ship with them during the 70s and 80s. They used to play the damned things full volume at all hours in the compartments when men were trying to sleep.

[elfman2]

"…we will need all the well trained and effective people we can get. This is not a time to be divisive. Service and loyalty know no political boundaries..."

I have no doubt that most gays in the military perform effectively. "Don't ask, don't tell" is surely a hardship on them, but it's unavoidable. Anything more pro-gay than that is too much of a hardship on the rest of the military.

The young men in our services deserve the same right to privacy as our women from the voyeuristic and sexual predator nature of men. Therefor, the open presence of gays in the barracks is every bit as much of a problem for privacy and moral of men as would be the presence of men in women's barracks, men as girl scouts instructors or men as girls high school Gym teachers. It's universally recognized by all effective militaries that the only way around the problem is to put the burden back on the gays. This is not anti-gay.

Personally, I support some kind of gay civil-unions. I even think that gays should be able to adopt under some circumstances such as hardship or a preexisting relationship, but there really is no place in an effective military organization for gays. Maintaining and promoting the "don't ask don't tell" standard is not being divisive.

[Brian Bennett]

"For of all wars, this is surely one in which gay America can take a proud and central part. The men who have launched a war on this country see the freedom that gay people have here as one of the central reasons for their hatred."

"Our War Too, Gay Heroes, and Gay Necessities" by Andrew Sullivan