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U.S.-Egypt Arms Deal Questioned - Critics in Congress cite impact on Israel
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Posted on 11/27/2001 8:39:46 AM PST by RCW2001

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1 posted on 11/27/2001 8:39:46 AM PST by RCW2001
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‘MARITIME BORDERS’

Nabil Fahmy, Egypt’s ambassador to Washington, said, “We are a nation with long maritime borders and significant port facilities, which are used fundamentally for peaceful purposes but which need to be protected.” The Harpoons, he added, “will not be used against anybody who does not attack us.”

A U.S. government official defended Egypt’s record as an ally, describing its cooperation with anti-terrorism efforts as “excellent.” Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the official said, Egypt has eagerly shared intelligence, quickly granted permission for U.S. military overflights en route to Central Asia and responded promptly to President Bush’s plea for action against terrorist financial networks.

Egypt’s perceived ambivalence about the Afghanistan campaign, the official said, is a function of Egyptian domestic politics. “They’ve got a tough problem,” the official said. “They are much more cooperative with us than their public wants them to be.”

Under existing rules, the State Department memo alerting Congress to the proposed Harpoon deal — classified “confidential” — triggered a 20-day comment period. If the administration decides to proceed with the deal, it will publicly notify Congress of its intent.

Lawmakers then would have 30 days to pass a resolution opposing the arms sale, but the president could veto the resolution. Congress therefore would need a two-thirds majority to block a proposed sale or transfer — a level of opposition that has never been reached, congressional aides said.

2 posted on 11/27/2001 8:40:34 AM PST by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
Did you see the AWACS sales to Saudi Arabia this month?
3 posted on 11/27/2001 8:45:05 AM PST by Patria One
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*Northrop wins a $7 million contract to provide Saudi Arabia National Guard with vehicular intercom systems, spare parts

Thursday, 15 November 2001

Northrop Grumman Corporation, Linthicum, Maryland, was awarded on 8 November 2001, a $6,688,304 firm-fixed-price contract for 468 vehicular intercom systems, spare parts and a field service representative for the Saudi Arabia National Guard Retrofit Program.

Work will be performed in Linthicum, Maryland, and completion is expected by 30 December 2003. The U.S. Army Communications-Electronics Command, Fort Monmouth, New Jersey, is the contracting activity.

*Halliburton wins a $140 million contract to provide services for Saudi Aramco Qatif Field development project

Wednesday, 14 November 2001

Halliburton’s Energy Services Group, through its Halliburton Energy Services and Landmark Graphics business units, announced today that it has been awarded an $140 million contract to provide services for the Saudi Arabian Oil Company’s (Saudi Aramco) Qatif Field development project in the eastern province of Saudi Arabia.

The initial scope of the three-year project to drill producing oil and water wells will include using a wide range of technologies, such as drilling optimization software and extended-reach drilling and the installation of several multilateral systems.

*Boeing begins $60 Million upgrade of Saudi Arabia's AWACS fleet

Wednesday, 22 August 2001

The Boeing Company has begun installing new mission computers and other hardware and software on the Royal Saudi Air Force's (RSAF) fleet of five AWACS aircraft, as part of a contract worth approximately $60 million.

Work will be done in Seattle, with the first two aircraft retrofitted this year and the next three in 2002, said a Boeing statement today.

Under the contract, Boeing will upgrade the aircraft's mission computer and software to the same level currently in use by U.S. Air Force AWACS fleet and provide RSAF operator training.

Saudi Arabia's AWACS fleet is part of the Peace Sentinel program that had started in 1981. It included the five AWACS aircraft and eight KE-3 refueling tanker aircraft, along with spare parts, trainers and support equipment. The first Saudi E-3s were delivered in June 1986, with deliveries of the remaining E-3s and tankers completed by September 1987. Currently carried on-board militarized 707

4 posted on 11/27/2001 8:48:04 AM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
And yet, the Arabs are afraid of Israel, lose almost all wars with her, and refuse to take up arms to help the Palestinians.

Why is that?

5 posted on 11/27/2001 8:52:37 AM PST by veronica
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To: veronica
All of Israel's neighbors have signed the zone 6 nuclear non-proliferation treaty and Saudi Arabia was none too happy when Pakistan got the bomb.
7 posted on 11/27/2001 8:55:17 AM PST by Patria One
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To: RCW2001
As the Egyptian papers called for a mass missile attack to destroy Israel last year, I guess this arms deal could be called "bye bye Jerusalem".
8 posted on 11/27/2001 8:57:09 AM PST by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
Even if this goes through Israel has military superiority. PLUS...nukes.
9 posted on 11/27/2001 9:00:19 AM PST by veronica
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To: mijo
STAGGERING!

Why is that, sweetie? I agree with them. Frankly, a whole lot of "America Firsters" will only condemn the $2 billion dollar aid package to Egypt when reminded to do so and constantly whine about how worthless Israel is to us, I haven't seen anyone tell us about what a great friend of the US Egypt is. And, just to remind everyone, it wasn't only Palestinian children who celebrated when our people were murdered on September 11. There were some in Egypt who celebrated as well.

10 posted on 11/27/2001 9:04:27 AM PST by BenF
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All of Israel's neighbors have signed the zone 6 nuclear non-proliferation treaty and Saudi Arabia was none too happy when Pakistan got the bomb.

Maybe you could explain how this answers Veronica's question? After that, maybe you could explain why we should care about this?

11 posted on 11/27/2001 9:06:00 AM PST by BenF
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And, just to remind everyone, it wasn't only Palestinian children who celebrated when our people were murdered on September 11.

Sure wasn't...some of the celebrants even posed smiling for pictures with the burning WTC as the background.

Such utter scum.
12 posted on 11/27/2001 9:11:52 AM PST by wheezer
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Oh yeah. 5 Israeli were posing. No proof they were smiling.

HUNDREDS of Palestinians carried pix of Bin Laden and danced for joy, while Egyptians yelled BULLS-EYE!!!

13 posted on 11/27/2001 9:14:42 AM PST by veronica
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Bulls-eye say Egyptians as they celebrate anti-US attacks

By Lamia Radi CAIRO

STORY WAS CENSORED FROM THIS WEEK'S EDITION

"Egyptian students, taxi drivers and shopkeepers crowded round television sets stacked up in electrical store windows in downtown Cairo September 11, celebrating a string of elaborate attacks on New York and Washington.

"Bullseye," commented two taxi drivers as they watched footage of the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York shrouded in plumes of smoke after two presumably hijacked planes slammed into them earlier in the day.

Another Egyptian man, Gawish Abdel Karim, told AFP he was pleased with the wave of violence in which another plane crashed into the Pentagon in Washington, the heart of the U.S. Defense establishment.

"Nice work," said Abdel Karim, who drives a car for an Asian embassy.

"The Americans have forgotten that God exists. They have us by the throat and now they find themselves in a science fiction film scenario, but this time Rambo's not there to save the White House."

Anti-US sentiment has mushroomed on the streets of Egypt and other Arab countries over its widely perceived support for Israel over the Palestinians in the past 11 months of violence in the Middle East. As with other US facilities around the world, workers at US government offices and Egyptian citizens were taking security precautions, with only "non-essential" operations set to be covered on Wednesday.

However, US officials said there had been no credible or specific threat against US citizens or interests here.

Abdel Karim hailed the attacks as "the best thing that's happened since the October War," referring to the October 1973 Arab-Israeli war when Egyptian forces made a surprise attack on the Israeli army across the Suez Canal.

"Mabrouk! Mabrouk! (congratulations)", shouted a crowd of people huddled round the shop window. Egypt, considered one of the "moderate" countries in the Middle East, is one of the United States' strongest allies in the region, being the first Arab country to sign a peace treaty with Israel in 1979.

But people on the streets do not necessarily see themselves as US allies. "The Americans are cowards. They use other countries to hit us. They don't have the courage to meet us face to face," said Khalil Matar, 43, who works in a state-run soap factory. "The myth of the indestructible United States has gone up in smoke." Polytechnic student Amira Ryad also vented her anger.

"We saw the tower crash down," she said, referring to one of the two towers of the World Trade Center, both of which were razed by the attack.

"I only wish (US President) George Bush and his dear little baby (Israeli Prime Minister Ariel) Sharon had been buried in there too," she added.

Fellow student Murad went as far as speculating that the United States was behind the attacks, "to find an excuse for the National Missile Defense system" that Bush wants to deploy to protect the United States from so-called rogue states, despite widespread global opposition. "Those people are capable of killing their own people to prove they're right," he said.

Egyptian President Hosni "Mubarak should know that the people can no longer be humiliated, but of course he'll never declare war" on Israel, the student said. Another taxi driver said he was going to make special prayers to thank him for the attacks against the US."

And this is the censored version.

14 posted on 11/27/2001 9:20:46 AM PST by veronica
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I guess the Egyptians haven't forgotten the Lavon Affair..
15 posted on 11/27/2001 9:25:19 AM PST by Patria One
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'"I only wish (US President) George Bush.....had been buried in there too," she added.'
16 posted on 11/27/2001 9:27:29 AM PST by veronica
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To: wheezer
Sure wasn't...some of the celebrants even posed smiling for pictures with the burning WTC as the background.

Really. There were Arabs who actually posed for pictures? Do you have a link to them?

Such utter scum.

Gotta agree with you here, Wheezer. Those Arabs are scum. I knew there were some in Patterson, NJ, who celebrated, but I didn't know they posed for pictures with the WTC in the background.

17 posted on 11/27/2001 9:31:30 AM PST by BenF
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To: veronica
Thank you, Veronica. You are such a sweetheart.
18 posted on 11/27/2001 9:36:25 AM PST by BenF
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I don't think you care about anyone or anything except Israel so I have no expectations of you.
20 posted on 11/27/2001 9:36:53 AM PST by Patria One
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